Portal versus HS recruiting

[GatorJ]

Georgia, Ohio State, and Alabama are mainly HS recruiting and are out.

Miami is a pretty good mix of both strategies.

Oregon is heavier in recruiting.

Texas Tech is mainly portal and got knocked out.

Indiana and Ole Miss are portal.

 

[GatorTruth133]

I really like the Indiana and Ole Miss portal strategies (the strategy they use, not saying we need to go full portal). Their strategy is to get what proven production they can and not just potential and get a Baylor back up DT we have to lie about and ignore arguably costing us a game because they spit on someone. Example, OM got a back up (now starter) QB who won titles at a lower level. We gambled on mid production (at previous school) a few times hoping for better and won with Pearsall and lost with others.

Lane also kept on eye on guys like Kewan Lacy who he did recruit from HS and had identified. Here, I think guys like Trautwein could have an impact as we know he could bring some PSU guys (even if they were back ups this year, possibly behind entrenched starters) who he identified and believed in.

To be honest, Miami's mix is probably what we should hope for. Recruit some top guys or guys we believe can be special (like they did with Toney) and cycle in guys you believe can be great for you as well.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I really like the Indiana and Ole Miss portal strategies (the strategy they use, not saying we need to go full portal). Their strategy is to get what proven production they can and not just potential and get a Baylor back up DT we have to lie about and ignore arguably costing us a game because they spit on someone. Example, OM got a back up (now starter) QB who won titles at a lower level. We gambled on mid production (at previous school) a few times hoping for better and won with Pearsall and lost with others.

Do you honestly think our strategy of being the cheapest mofos in the grocery store is going to be any different in the portal?

 

[cover2]

To be honest, Miami's mix is probably what we should hope for. Recruit some top guys or guys we believe can be special (like they did with Toney) and cycle in guys you believe can be great for you as well.

Agreed and this has been an impression after watching them last year and throughout this season. My lifelong spite for the Canes has pretty much become a “they hate you ‘cause they ain’t you” situation. I really wish we were as efficient as they have become with both phases of player procurement and it would not be a sin to make that a goal. Their lines are dang good and a great deal of their success is a result of those position groups. We’d be dumb not to emulate.

 

[cover2]

Do you honestly think our strategy of being the cheapest mofos in the grocery store is going to be any different in the portal?

If it doesn’t change then we may as well turn BHG into a concert venue.

 

[MJMGator]

If it doesn’t change then we may as well turn BHG into a concert venue.

Just none of that gay 90s music ok?
@soflagator @Detroitgator

 

[cover2]

Just none of that gay 90s music ok?
@soflagator @Detroitgator

You know good and well they’d see that Dual Lipper or whatever that little Eastern European chicks name is would be first up with the “new” Styx opening.

 

[Detroitgator]

Just none of that gay 90s music ok?
@soflagator @Detroitgator

You know good and well they’d see that Dual Lipper or whatever that little Eastern European chicks name is would be first up with the “new” Styx opening.

 

[GatorJB]

Since the 12-team playoff started only 1/8 of the first round byes have won. Of course Indiana is the only team to win because they are the ultimate outlier for everything. I don't think the playoffs really teach us how to best build a roster. What we've learned is that you're better off being a 5-12 team because taking a month off of football hinders you.

One of the arguments against the playoff system was that it would diminishes the regular season. Well, it's gone beyond that right now since going undefeated gives you a disadvantage unless you're Curt Cignetti.

 

[Silverback Gator]

One of the arguments against the playoff system was that it would diminishes the regular season. Well, it's gone beyond that right now since going undefeated gives you a disadvantage unless you're Curt Cignetti.

On the other hand, all 12 teams are very good so one team has to lose. The small conference teams lost as they should, and the automatic berths should be eliminated imo.

 

[Gator98MD]

It ain’t college football anymore. Ima switch to cricket

 

[Swamp Donkey]

On the other hand, all 12 teams are very good

 

[Silverback Gator]

Did you accomplish anything with that dicknose?

 

[AlexDaGator]

How many true freshmen offensive tackles can play in the SEC?

They generally don't have real on-field value until they are in year 2 at the earliest, usually year 3, with the real value in years 4 and 5.

So do you want to pay a bazillion dollars in NIL money to a hotshot 5star left tackle to ride your bench for a couple of years, then, when he finally starts playing, if he's any good you'll have to pay him more not to leave and go elsewhere?

Or does it make more sense to husband your resources and have the cash to steal the kid from some other school after he's grown up and proved himself and only pay him for his best 2 years?

On the other hand, true freshmen WR like Jeremiah Smith (tOSU) and Ryan Williams ('Bama) last year and Malachi Toney (Miami) this year prove that the WR position is different.

Your calculus on recruiting HS versus portal needs to take these differences into account.

The portal serves double duty. It gives you an opportunity to push out the busts. A lot of our outgoing portal this year is dudes who can't play. If you paid a bunch of NIL to a HS recruit MLB and he's in year 3 and can't play a lick, you have a problem because you counted on him being a contributor. If you just ditch him, your roster becomes unbalanced, you've got a hole at LB. You can't replace him with a HS recruit who won't be ready to play for a couple of years, you need somebody who can play now. So, you use the portal to ditch him and bring in a better performing redshirt sophomore who can contribute now to fill that hole. That's the other side of the portal, you use it to fill in experienced player holes that can't be filled in by a true freshman.


Alex.

 

[Silverback Gator]

^^^^
True.

 

[Yankeetown]

It ain’t college football anymore. Ima switch to cricket

Have you ever watched cricket???

It's tedious to play, but excruciating to watch.

I guess it's tolerable background scenery if you're mostly wanting to sit in a chair outdoors for a few days, drinking adult beverages and nibbling on cucumber sandwiches.

"HOWZAT!"

 

[gatormandan]

It's tedious to play, but excruciating to watch.

Sounds like Billy ball.

 

[GatorJB]

On the other hand, all 12 teams are very good so one team has to lose. The small conference teams lost as they should, and the automatic berths should be eliminated imo.

So you think the rankings were wrong and 5-10ish have actually been the better teams two years in a row? I'm not buying it.

 

[Paapa]

Can someone please link the Charles Barkley video, I can’t seem to find it

 

[TXgators]

Watching Indiana, Ole Miss, and Texas Tech, it’s pretty clear that a head coach’s ability to have a team ready physically, mentally, and strategically matters more now than it did pre-NIL days.