I found that switching to fatter grips and shoving them up by b-hole has improved my handicap by at least 8 strokes.
And all this time I thought they were to help my arthritic handsI found that switching to fatter grips and shoving them up by b-hole has improved my handicap by at least 8 strokes.
What do you think laying up instead of "going for it" is?I dont see how it's a sport if you cant play defense.
Uhhhh, that’s not your brain.
I mean, you DO think with it sometimes, but it’s definitely not a brain.
And technically it’s called “tucking”, not tying it behind your back.
Alex.
Not even Moe stayed directly on plane for the entire swing, but the idea of addressing the ball on the same plane that you're going to be at impact makes a lot of sense to me even if you use more traditional mechanics. Moe could sit there and hit 800 golf balls in a row and not get tired or hurt using his swing.I played golf for about 40 years though havent touched a club in about 3 years. I maintained a handicap under 5 for about 30 of the 40 years and under 2 for about 5 of the 40 years. As a product of 70s youth golf, I was taught the classic c swing and even though I dabbled into making changes here and there I remained a classic c swinger.
Single plane swing ... just not a fan. It is awkward and goes against the natural flow of how the body hinges and unhinges. On a white board and as theory, the single plane swing is perfect. But ... humans are not perfect. I really kinda think Arnold Palmer said it best when he said "Swing your swing." I think there are positions each of us need to be in at certain points of OUR own swing. If you look at Bryson's swing in slo mo, even his swing isn't a single plane swing. Its close ... but it isnt. Even a putting swing isn't a single plane ... it has inside and out as well as wrist cock and release that alters the paths taken from back and through.
Pretty sure Jack usually hit a fade.Upright was great for irons. But for me my driver was long but all over the place. My swing change was when I was about 45. I wanted to hit a natural draw. I also got tired of going over the top and dumping a push/slice into the parking lot once a round. I emulated jack when I was young and got down to a 3 or 4. But I had to practice till my hands were bloody. No talent...none. I got tired of trying to swing like only one human being on earth could swing. That would be Nicklaus. Golf my way...pffft. Now with the new equipment and I guess a new philosophy, a fade is in. FML.
You friend must have the hand eye coordination of the gods. I don't know him but I hate him anyhow.
And finally while I'm ragging on Nicklaus. I also copied the way he hit wedges early in his career...all wristy. Thanks Jack. When I figured out that was wrong I shaved a few strokes.
All that said. Jack's still the GOAT.
Not even Moe stayed directly on plane for the entire swing, but the idea of addressing the ball on the same plane that you're going to be at impact makes a lot of sense to me even if you use more traditional mechanics. Moe could sit there and hit 800 golf balls in a row and not get tired or hurt using his swing.
My golf coach in Corpus Christi was Phil Blackmar who won a few PGA events in his day. One thing he said to me during one of our first sessions was that if all you had to do is what feels right, then everybody would be a scratch golfer.
The difficulty I had when I was a 4 handicap was no matter how well I was hitting the ball, there would always be those one or two swings every round that got away from me and put a big number. After finally hitting even par from the blues on my home course, I pretty much hung it up for a decade but now I'm getting back into it. I'm about a 9 right now but I'm thinking about changing my swing up in hopes that as I get used to playing again my ceiling will be a little higher. Personally I don't think there is anything all that "natural" about either method of swinging a golf club. The only point is to deliver the club head onto the back of the ball at the right angle so the ball goes where you want it to go.
The comment about doing what feels right makes perfect sense unless you're just trying to argue for argument's sake. Everytime anybody does anything, they are doing what feels right to them. The point is that what feels right to a guy who doesn't know what he's doing isn't actually right. It feels right to him when he swings over the top or grips the club incorrectly. The further point is that just because somebody has been taught one way to swing the club and has done so enough times so that his swing feels right doesn't mean that another way to swing the club is wrong just because it feels wrong to that guy.
Obviously, being able to recover from a bad shot is part of the game, not just technique wise but mentally. But the fact is that averaged over time, the guy with a more repeatable swing and consistent shot is going to score better than a guy who hits some great shots and some poor shots. Would you disagree?
Not even Moe stayed directly on plane for the entire swing, but the idea of addressing the ball on the same plane that you're going to be at impact makes a lot of sense to me even if you use more traditional mechanics. Moe could sit there and hit 800 golf balls in a row and not get tired or hurt using his swing.
My golf coach in Corpus Christi was Phil Blackmar who won a few PGA events in his day. One thing he said to me during one of our first sessions was that if all you had to do is what feels right, then everybody would be a scratch golfer.
The difficulty I had when I was a 4 handicap was no matter how well I was hitting the ball, there would always be those one or two swings every round that got away from me and put a big number. After finally hitting even par from the blues on my home course, I pretty much hung it up for a decade but now I'm getting back into it. I'm about a 9 right now but I'm thinking about changing my swing up in hopes that as I get used to playing again my ceiling will be a little higher. Personally I don't think there is anything all that "natural" about either method of swinging a golf club. The only point is to deliver the club head onto the back of the ball at the right angle so the ball goes where you want it to go.
Well there are shot shapes and then there are trick shots, like some of the recoveries TW makes from time to time where he hits I gigantic slice to get around a tree from the right rough. I think that a repeatable swing and being able to shape that ball aren't mutually exclusive. By just adjusting your aim point and opening/closing the face while taking your normal grip and swing you can work the ball either way.As to recovering. I could actually agree and disagree. Most of the time, effectiver recovery requires that you alter your swing. In fact ... most shots on course require that you alter your swing to hit the shot that is actually needed for that shot. But I really wasn't trying to take it there because that is getting into the weeds of what you are trying to say as a general statement. If one can tie their swing feeling to their actual swing then they should be able to (with practice and experience) alter their swing feeling to alter the swing that results in a specific shot shape. Hitting the same shot over and over is the worst thing one can do to get better as a golfer. Every single shot is different.
Well there are shot shapes and then there are trick shots, like some of the recoveries TW makes from time to time where he hits I gigantic slice to get around a tree from the right rough. I think that a repeatable swing and being able to shape that ball aren't mutually exclusive. By just adjusting your aim point and opening/closing the face while taking your normal grip and swing you can work the ball either way.
Obviously there are many ways to swing the club, heck just look at Jim Furyk or that new guy Matt Wolff. They swing their swing. I actually tried to imitate Wolff's swing and bringing the club back almost straight up and then dropping it into the slot made it easier for me to make the turn and start my downswing without the right shoulder coming up and over instead of down and through. But I'm still curious to see if the hands high address or single plane or whatever you want to call it is a good option. I can tell you that my ball flight when hitting this way was very straight and predictable. With my normal swing I usually hit a baby fade but of course sometimes it goes straight, sometimes it slices, and once in a while I'll even hook it.
As far as impact vs address, take a look at Bryson. Of course its not exact, nor is his swing plane exactly one plane, but compared to a traditional swing its much much closer. I can easily see how that makes his swing more repeatable. Less moving parts.