Third candidate emerges in UF quarterback battle

[Bernardo de la Paz]

21-16 and never even managed to win the division IS the evidence. The rest is just conjecture and excuses.

The bottom line is the bottom line.

He won 57% of his games at CSU, an improvement of 32% over the previous 3 years. Spurrier won 59% of his games at Duke, an improvement of 29% over the previous 3 years. Those records are not materially different.

In Spurrier's final season at Duke they went 8-4 overall, 6-1 in the conference finishing tied for first among the 8 teams (pre-FSU joining the conference) and unranked nationally. Also the team that he 'tied' with for first in the conference beat him head-to-head so if there really was some kind of trophy or playoff berth associated with it, Duke would not have been the 'champion'.

In Mac's final season at CSU he went 10-2 overall, 6-2 in the conference finishing tied for second among the 12 teams and unranked nationally. Again, not materially different.

Non of that is conjecture or an excuse. That's just comparing the actual results.

 

[Gatorbreath]

21-16 and never even managed to win the division IS the evidence. The rest is just conjecture and excuses.

The bottom line is the bottom line.

He went from 4 to 8 to 10 wins. How much more improvement in 3 years can we reasonably expect? How in the world does his record not qualify him as an "up and comer" in coaching circles? And he wasn't handed the keys to a Cadillac program coming off 11 wins right smack dab in the middle of a fertile recruiting area. It was CSU, for crying out loud - the 3rd best program in one of the worst college football states in the nation. And he is an offensive coach. And, he has SEC experience. And a track record of scoring points in truckloads. He didn't win his division in 3 years - one he shared with the 400 lb. gorilla of the schools outside the Power 5 conferences, Boise State. Clearly, he was on a trajectory that would have put him in a position to beat them at home this year.

Are you genetically incapable of seeing even a glimmer of positivity in anything?

 

[rogdochar]

Perhaps we should factor in : Garrett Grayson came to Mac as the 28th ranked QB in the state of Washington ?
Grayson credits Mac as making him the QB success he became.
= Mac has never had the CFB players the quality of UF's.
Conclusion : better than 60% odds Mac can make us a near Shane Mathews type QB.
Why ignore the Grayson development of the 28th ranked state of Washington HS QB ? Why not hope some ?
Also, Mac's attitude should inspire Gators to fight for a so-called upset or two. Remember those days ?
Absolutely, there can be nothing but a Gator rise from "Messedchomp"s teams.

 

[GatorJ]

Interestingly enough…

After last night's FNL, we offered 2 star QB Kyle Trask. 6'5.

So why a 2 star if he did so well last night and has the size? He plays behind 4* D'Eriq King, 4* DT/QB committed to TCU. So he's had limited opportunities.

@gabrieldbrooks: Recent VIDEO of new #Gators QB target @ktrask9 of @ManvelHS: https://t.co/zfdExEXBtC https://t.co/UQdNHqlJYU

 

[Swamp Donkey]

= Mac has never had the CFB players the quality of UF's.

You don't think he had those at Bammer?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Seems like I remember something about that, did he take a medical??

No, because it doesn't fvkking matter.

 

[t-gator]

He won 57% of his games at CSU, an improvement of 32% over the previous 3 years. Spurrier won 59% of his games at Duke, an improvement of 29% over the previous 3 years. Those records are not materially different.

In Spurrier's final season at Duke they went 8-4 overall, 6-1 in the conference finishing tied for first among the 8 teams (pre-FSU joining the conference) and unranked nationally. Also the team that he 'tied' with for first in the conference beat him head-to-head so if there really was some kind of trophy or playoff berth associated with it, Duke would not have been the 'champion'.

In Mac's final season at CSU he went 10-2 overall, 6-2 in the conference finishing tied for second among the 12 teams and unranked nationally. Again, not materially different.

Non of that is conjecture or an excuse. That's just comparing the actual results.

Stop taking law to school.

 

[Gator Fever]

I think a case can be made against the coordinators we hired but not McElwain himself. He did a big turnaround as a head coach there.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

I think a case can be made against the coordinators we hired but not McElwain himself. He did a big turnaround as a head coach there.

The coordinator hires would definitely be more difficult to defend. Especially Nussmeier.

 

[rogdochar]

You don't think he had those at Bammer?

Are you saying Mac was mediocre at Bamma ?

 

[Concrete Helmet]

No, because it doesn't fvkking matter.

Unless he suffers a season ending injury in the 1st game of one of his remaining seasons.......:headshake:

 

[maheo30]

Let's get real here. This is a guy that has been outperformed by Jeff Driskel in the passing touchdown department. That says it all. If he is playing, we are screwed.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Let's get real here. This is a guy that has been outperformed by Jeff Driskel in the passing touchdown department. That says it all. If he is playing, we are screwed.

Yup,.....also why do so many NFL coaches sons who never amount to much end up here? Isn't this like the 4th time now?

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

Not sure I would say he was outperformed by JD. With only 18 passes thrown it's tough to judge him. Also, I don't know what was going on at Oregon State last year that they ended up only throwing 15 TD passes, but the guy he was backing up had thrown 37 the year before and got drafted in the third round. Also broke Matt Barkley's record for career passing yards in the PAC-12. That's hardly Driskeling.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

Some other interesting stuff... Coming out of high school he originally committed to Oregon State as a scholarship player. Backed out of that to become a preferred walk on at Bama. Recruited by Nussmeier. Leaves to go to Oregon State when Nussmeier leaves for Michigan then comes to Florida when Nussmeier arrives here.

So why not follow Nussmeier to Michigan?

 

[rogdochar]

Allowing QBs to try out for 3rd string backup gives us an emergency QB in case of injuries to other top-2 QBs.
Then there's the unusual ability to outperform other QBs under heavy rush ?

 

[maheo30]

Not sure I would say he was outperformed by JD. With only 18 passes thrown it's tough to judge him. Also, I don't know what was going on at Oregon State last year that they ended up only throwing 15 TD passes, but the guy he was backing up had thrown 37 the year before and got drafted in the third round. Also broke Matt Barkley's record for career passing yards in the PAC-12. That's hardly Driskeling.

You have a point. What is he, a redshirt sophomore? He wasn't good enough to get an offer from Bama so he had to walk-on. He didn't play. He transferred to Oregon State where he played in 3 games throwing to touchdown passes. So one could argue he hasn't played enough. One could also argue that the truly good QBs make an impression right away. Danny, Tim, Leak, Aaron Murray, Winston...ect. Since he hasn't made much of an impression at 2 schools, then what are we really getting? I think it is a pointless discussion, because this guy isn't playing this year.

 

[78]

Good point, Maheo. The kid's a walk-on transfer. Most years, we couldn't care less. He was granted immediate eligibility at Oregon State and the chances of it happening two times in a row are slim and none. But he's a walk-on transfer at a high-profile program with a new coach and a quarterback situation that's very unsettled. Hence, 95 posts later, he's a hot ticket.

 

[LagoonGator68]

Nussmeier pet

 

[78]

Nussmeier pet

He's also reuniting with former Oregon State offensive coordinator John Garrett (Jason's brother), who's Florida's "quality control specialist" on offense. BTW, was there such a position on Muschamp's staff?