Thoughts on Kelvin Taylor

[Swamp Donkey]

3.6 YPC is why I'd like to see Cronkrite and Scarlett get as many carries together that Taylor gets in a game i.e.
carries divided 3 ways of Cronkrite + Scarlett half the caries and Taylor the other half.

Sometimes I wish you got your wish, Jacob Guy or Josh Grady at QB and the Jordan's at TB just so we could say I told you so.

You don't think that fumbling the ball about every third or fourth carry and being completely useless in pass protection is a big deal? Why don't you get Mac on the phone and straighten him out.

 

[Swamped Gator]

We all agree that the o-line is the main problem. We all agree that Taylor isn't an elite running back at this point. One positive thing I will say, he's been very good at punching it in for 6 in the redzone. Considering the redzone woes we've had the past 5 years I will definitely give him credit for that.

 

[88drgator]

We all agree that the o-line is the main problem. We all agree that Taylor isn't an elite running back at this point. One positive thing I will say, he's been very good at punching it in for 6 in the redzone. Considering the redzone woes we've had the past 5 years I will definitely give him credit for that.

This.

 

[gatormandan]

We don't really have a fullback. You wanting to move Cox or someone else (Bryan)?

I dont have the answer for a fullback, just wondering if you guys think it would benefit our run game.

 

[Gator Fever]

I dont have the answer for a fullback, just wondering if you guys think it would benefit our run game.

I doubt it would too much with us running mostly shotgun anyway.

 

[gatormandan]

Might be good for red zone/goal line plays...

 

[BMF]

We all agree that the o-line is the main problem. We all agree that Taylor isn't an elite running back at this point. One positive thing I will say, he's been very good at punching it in for 6 in the redzone. Considering the redzone woes we've had the past 5 years I will definitely give him credit for that.

Thank you. This is my main point. He's NOT an "elite" RB...he's mediocre - at best. I am happy to see him punching it in the end zone when called upon. I wish he'd show that punch/power in other running situations.

I think Law's point about the 2 freshman hits home, as Taylor is our best option at this point. But at what point do you allow the freshman to get carries/PT? It's game 8 vs. UGA, so they have to of shown improvement...right? Are they still going to fumble and/or miss blocking assignments? I hope not to the extent as game 1 & 2....or something is wrong w/ the coaching. Hopefully we can blow out Vandy and get a lead on SC so they can get some playing time.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Thank you. This is my main point. He's NOT an "elite" RB...he's mediocre - at best. I am happy to see him punching it in the end zone when called upon. I wish he'd show that punch/power in other running situations.

I think Law's point about the 2 freshman hits home, as Taylor is our best option at this point. But at what point do you allow the freshman to get carries/PT? It's game 8 vs. UGA, so they have to of shown improvement...right? Are they still going to fumble and/or miss blocking assignments? I hope not to the extent as game 1 & 2....or something is wrong w/ the coaching. Hopefully we can blow out Vandy and get a lead on SC so they can get some playing time.

Fumblitis isn't always in season coaching. Sometimes it takes a full offseason to correct. Because you have to create a new habit in carrying the ball. That takes time and more time than is allowed in game preparation. If this carries into the following season then the coaching should be questioned a bit. But I could see the Freshmen starting to get more carries later in the season. At the least to limit the wear and tear on Taylor. We will need him most in Atlanta, FSU, and the Bowl game.

 

[gatormandan]

Off subject, at the beginning of the season Drob would run with the ball stretched out in one hand and I have seen a change in him over the last few games. Did they climb his back about it and threaten to bench him or what?

 

[TLB]

I could see the Freshmen starting to get more carries later in the season. At the least to limit the wear and tear on Taylor. We will need him most in Atlanta, FSU, and the Bowl game.

This is exactly what I'm expecting, now that neither of the freshmen can redshirt out. The games against the other teams should provide ample real-game situations for the freshmen to cut their teeth, get up to game speed, and prove they can hold the ball. Who knows, maybe they'll start to shine a bit with more carries, and going against weaker defenses. We will lean heavy on KT again for the FSU and SECCG (jinx!) and bowl - I expect coaches will use him as needed in the easier games, but use the freshmen a lot more.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

But I could see the Freshmen starting to get more carries later in the season. At the least to limit the wear and tear on Taylor. We will need him most in Atlanta, FSU, and the Bowl game.

Unfortunately we just haven't had a lead. Mizzu, Tinerc and Kintucky were all quite close.

Crunk has gotten a few carries here and there but he has fumbled (but recovered) twice. Also, BC he can't block, we are pretty much required to run when he is on the field.

Remember it took Taylor two years to learn how to pass pro. It's not an overnight thing.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Unfortunately we just haven't had a lead. Mizzu, Tinerc and Kintucky were all quite close.

Crunk has gotten a few carries here and there but he has fumbled (but recovered) twice. Also, BC he can't block, we are pretty much required to run when he is on the field.

Remember it took Taylor two years to learn how to pass pro. It's not an overnight thing.

Wasn't Scarlett the one who fumbled twice and Cronkrite the one who doesn't seem to be able to block? Nice runner though. I agree on the pass protection, that is something that has to be learned in game and over time. Taylor was a liability last year and the year before it in, now he is making the natural moves that make huge differences.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Wasn't Scarlett the one who fumbled twice and Cronkrite the one who doesn't seem to be able to block? Nice runner though. I agree on the pass protection, that is something that has to be learned in game and over time. Taylor was a liability last year and the year before it in, now he is making the natural moves that make huge differences.

I don't know. Crunk fumbled against Mizzu and fell on it. I think he did earlier too, like maybe against Kintucky. The word is he has had problems in practice too. You can tell Mac doesn't trust him bc he has played Powell and two walkons at times when he could have played Crunk.

I don't think Scarlett has played since the first game. Think he was hurt.

 

[NavetG8r]

I don't know. Crunk fumbled against Mizzu and fell on it. I think he did earlier too, like maybe against Kintucky. The word is he has had problems in practice too. You can tell Mac doesn't trust him bc he has played Powell and two walkons at times when he could have played Crunk.

I don't think Scarlett has played since the first game. Think he was hurt.

Hmmmm, somehow I thought it was the exact opposite. Crunk hurt and Scarlett unable to hold onto the ball.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I'm not sure.

 

[NVGator]

So, what would happen if KT goes out and pulls a Chubb? We just don't play either Jordan's because they might actually fumble or mis a block?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

So, what would happen if KT goes out and pulls a Chubb? We just don't play either Jordan's because they might actually fumble or mis a block?

I guess we have to. I don't know. I'm not watching practice like Mac is. There is a reason he won't put them on the field even though he has freshmen all over the place.

 

[NavetG8r]

So, what would happen if KT goes out and pulls a Chubb? We just don't play either Jordan's because they might actually fumble or mis a block?

He'd probably put Herndon out there as the starter. I believe he is a Senior. Although he also has put the ball on the ground, even if JMac wants to blame Treon. The ball was put in his gut.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Hmmmm, somehow I thought it was the exact opposite. Crunk hurt and Scarlett unable to hold onto the ball.

^this is what I heard, Crunk got hurt in either ECU or UK. Scarlett put the ball on the ground twice and also has been putting it on the ground in practice.