According to the report and evidence released by the state attorney, there was no evidence of rape drugs or any other drugs in her system. There was also relatively little alcohol in her system. I'm not a Winston fan but after reading the entire report last year it seemed to me that her story didn't match up with the evidence that was released. End of quote
This is the point. The key words are "according to the SAO report". I thought I covered this.
1. GHB has a very narrow time frame for being traced. The specimen needs to be drawn within 6 hours of ingestion, which it seems to have been.
2. The blood and urine specimens were not sent to the lab for 39 days. Given the fact that her attorney was told they had already been sent prior to that and couldn't get info before that, and much indication of lack of objective handling of case , there is also question of whether the samples were even preserved adequately -ie refrigerated, or whether they sat in sun on a window sill, or whether they were lost or otherwise replaced with other samples.
3.The TPD sheets for the labs in the TPD report did not even have various rape drugs boxes checked or did not have all of them checked. ( not sure of which at this point.) GHB is the favorite drug at FSU it has been said, and probably with most drugging rapists because it is essentially tasteless, odorless, colorless and so hard to trace in labs.
4.The SAO authorized tests sometime in fall of 2013, more thorough tests I think. However, at that point the specimens , if still the same after about 11 months, were quite old. That affects results. Additionally-
5.SAO's behavior in the lab matters and others is highly suspect- and not just because of a lighthearted press conference Not going into all of it here.- just this part The victim's attorney repeatedly asked for the blood and urine samples to be verified as coming from the victim at that point, because of so much obstruction and lack of ethics from investigating agencies and/or individuals. The SAO counsel repeatedly refused.. She then contacted Meggs multiple times about this and was refused.
Finally, Meggs agreed to test the blood for identity but not rape drugs.
The urine, which at that point (oct /nov 2013) was tested at SAO's request. This probably included for rape drugs not specified by TPD ( if any were even specified by them- which I did not see checked) GHB, according to research done by others- though I have a link somewhere- is pretty much untraceable after 24 hours after administered and apparently not always traceable then.( that might have to do with when specimen collected in relation to ingestion). It is not impossible to find traces for a period of time after, but not really likely. ( which is part of why it is a preferred rape drug) . Specimens sat 39 days. The window was long past,
Meggs refused to test the urine for identity.
This is highly suspect to me. Why not if it shuts up the objections and puts the issue to rest?
. Meggs had already spent lots of unnecessary taxpayer money in " hunting down" the ex boyfriend , involving 2 state's law enforcement when he didn't have to as the victim's attorney had said they didn't want to involve the ex in his ex's rape case as they were not together and he was out of state for some time, BUT they would supply the info if SAO went ahead. However, SAO,had conceded this violated rape shield law and any info gained from this violated rape shield law and was inadmissible in court so there was no point in going after it. ( however, it could serve a purpose) Victim's side thought the admission by SAO that interviewing him would serve no purpose and was illegal and inadmissible had put the issue to rest.
My understanding was the exBF had not been in Fl for some time when the rape occurred. . The exBF dna on her shorts ( winston's was on her panties) was not from that night ( suggesting multiple partners) and if it was, it makes no difference in terms of rape. That was part of attacking her credibility and also trying to dscourage her from proceeding by continuing to support the skank propaganda. Researching posters on another forum discovered that lab tests can detect and identify DNA from semen after multiple washings of material. Who knew? I bring this up primarily as one demonstration that the cost to taxpayers of confirming the identity of the urine is not a viable argument or excuse for not doing it. SAO never claimed it was, but individuals might hypothesize this as a reason. Much more was spent to further attack her character in public perception,
The SAO report conveniently left out , not blacked out lines, but omitted 7-11 pages of medical records that support the fact there was no question that she was raped, and as I said, the symptoms noted were consistent with date rape drugs and neither this testimony nor interview with SANE nurse is in the SAO record. ( because medical testimony of first responder is not relevant?) That alone is suspicious. -especially when the SAO doesn't send the victim's attorney a copy prior to release to press, doesn't send it after when they say they will, and then sends a supposed unredacted copy that is missing key parts of medical records and I think there were other letters and info that were also left out that were nonmedical.
I am not sure why you think her story isn't consistent. Have you never seen someone with cognitive injury, or trauma in general? I can tell you, migraines alone make it hard to process info in the brain. can be very foggy.
In the TPD report, it seems very consistent to me with the discrepancies being parts coming back to memory. They were not major discrepancies. Again, if she was intending to set him up she would have had a complete story composed. The height difference was what the officer wrote down not what she described according to her lawyer, and I believe it because of all the impropriety that went on. Her first 3 interviews she was vomiting, dazed, traumatized, had a characteristic drug headache, no energy ( effects of drugs on nervous system and cell function) and if you don't know, rape drugs not only immobilize, they affect memory, and nerve network communication.
I realize this is a hot topic for me, but I am not the kind of person that just assumes rape or hates men.. The trauma and drug aspect is just so clear to me. Also, I am most upset about the failure of govt system employees, including the governor, to protect citizens of this state by doing their jobs in the justice system.. As a reminder, the governor refused an investigation request before it was even written and the reasons itemized, claiming the investigation was sound and ethical ( I forget the exact words, but might have them somewhere)even though nationally even then there was discussion about cover up. This was 4 hours or less after her press conference. Where was due process?.
You clearly have thought about this and investigated into it since you read the SAO report, and hopefully this additional info is helpful.
The report was not complete. In fact the investigation was not complete. Meggs had said about 5 days earlier than the no charge presser, given back load of cases, murder trial about to start for the lead investigator, that people should not expect a decision until after the holidays. Said she hadn't even really started as she was preparing for the murder trial. He later said, I read in an article somewhere, after the whole thing was over, that Jansen , had called him on thursday night and said they would like to see it wrapped up before the heisman vote ended the next day. While that seems unlikely for a savvy SA, he said something at his very first news release when SAO got the case, that was changed by the following day in an espn article. This statement would have been proof of using the wrong criteria to reach a determination of whether to bring chargers The original story in tallahassee.com was completely deleted and replaced with a cartoon bubble with one line on possible timetable for a decsion- which was not even the focal point of story)
