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Unless I've been living in a hole, didn't they go 7-6 last year and most of their fan base want hm fired and the noise only getting louder after dropping a turd to Pitt?
I think so, yes. And didn't you hear? They won the conference this year.
 

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Call me back when Butters wins a conference. Hell, he couldn't win the Mountain West.
 

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Seems like a good coach and a good guy, unless you're bothered by the whole "tried to brush under the rug the brutal rape committed by his players" thing. Other than that though...good for Ped State.
Additionally, when he left Vandy, he tried to flip their best players and the recruits. Good coach I guess, scummy guy.

Although in the moment, the idea of having someone who seems like he can turn around a program quickly is very tempting and appealing, do you really want a coach that is motivated to cover up rapes ( more brutal than typical rapes at that)?

If the answer is really yes, then you have no business condemning Jimbo, FSU, or TPD for their protection of Jameis Winston or any other criminoles they've protected for the sake of winning. If you never did condemn them, then I guess you're consistent. Otherwise, it is a contradiction in values and priorities.
 

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The point is, this has nothing to do with the rape case. Foley turned his nose up at Franklin BEFORE any of that happened. The question is, why?
 

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Again, this is an unrealistic candidate. He's from Pennsylvania and he's at a top job. He ain't leaving.

Bryan Harsin should be at the top of our list. Only hangup is he's from Boise and played at Boise State. If we offer him $4.5 million he's ours.
 

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The point is, this has nothing to do with the rape case. Foley turned his nose up at Franklin BEFORE any of that happened. The question is, why?

Because he's an arrogant know it all.
 

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I wasn't suggesting we hire Franklin. That ship has sailed. I just wanted to bring up that we passed on him for unknown reasons.
 

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I wasn't suggesting we hire Franklin. That ship has sailed. I just wanted to bring up that we passed on him for unknown reasons.

Glad we didn't hire him in hindsight now that we see what went on under his watch at Vandy. However, I think we all know that Foley didn't hire him because Foley had to find the "hidden gem" to prove how much smarter he is than everybody else :lol:
 

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The point is, this has nothing to do with the rape case. Foley turned his nose up at Franklin BEFORE any of that happened. The question is, why?


I think we all know by now, that Foley has no eye for picking Football coaches or maybe Foley has something against black head coaches.
 

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However, I t hink we all know that Foley didn't hire him because Foley had to find the "hidden gem" to prove how much smarter he is than everybody else :lol:

Yep it turned out that the Donovan hire, ruined Foley. From then on he had one model of coaching hires. That model was what could add another feather to is hat. I guess really it was the Donovan hire and being forced to hire Meyer and all of us knowing it was not his decision and him getting so little credit that ruined Foley.
 

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I think we all know by now, that Foley has no eye for picking Football coaches or maybe Foley has something against black head coaches.
Welcome aboard. Get an avatar.
 

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Yep it turned out that the Donovan hire, ruined Foley. From then on he had one model of coaching hires. That model was what could add another feather to is hat. I guess really it was the Donovan hire and being forced to hire Meyer and all of us knowing it was not his decision and him getting so little credit that ruined Foley.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but regardless I think you may be right. He's overall done a great job as an AD when you consider the WHOLE program, however he has completely failed the football program which is unacceptable. People won't want to hear it, but football HAS to be the main focus. Being champs in water polo isn't going to cut it financially. Gotta follow the cash.
 

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Not that I have anything personal against Franklin but let's be clear about a few things...

His first two seasons he had 5+ losses...secondly he didn't inherit a dumpster fire...Bill O'Brien left him the pieces to make it a top caliber team....If Franklin continues the success I'll buy in but I don't think he sniffs another Big 10 title for years...
 

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Mixed feelings about James Franklin. Personally, I don't care much for him, but that's just me personally. He is an incredible football coach, recruiter, and motivator. I went back and looked at Vanderbilt's recent football seasons. Bobby Johnson, who was considered to be a good coach by Vanderbilt standards went 29 - 66 in 8 seasons. James Franklin went 24 - 15 in 3 seasons at Vanderbilt.

True, Franklin left under a cloud of scandal at the end of his Vanderbilt reign with the rape scandal and charges of interference and cover-up by Franklin. Then he made some critical remarks about the football program at Vanderbilt when he left Nashville for Penn State. In hindsight it looks bad, but how many football coaches would have done the same thing Franklin did if the light of scandal was shined on their program. Leaving one school for another is never easy for a coach and the school. There are going to be hurt feelings and there was a lot of bitterness the way things went down in Nashville. They loved him for awhile though at Vanderbilt.

He is a big ego guy and he likes being the center of attention and in front of the cameras. He rubs some people the wrong way. But what big-time successful college football coach doesn't have the same persona?

Franklin is a great fit at Penn State. He is a Pennsylvania native, played at East Strasbourg State, so Penn State is a likely dream job for him.
 

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I'd rather be 4-8 every year than have our football program turned into another FSU where criminal activity is not only allowed, but encouraged by sweeping everything under the rug.
 

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I'd rather be 4-8 every year than have our football program turned into another FSU where criminal activity is not only allowed, but encouraged by sweeping everything under the rug.
No you wouldn't, but I understand you wanting to say it for optics purposes.
 

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No you wouldn't, but I understand you wanting to say it for optics purposes.

Clearly you don't know me as well as you think then. No way would I ever be happy if some win-at-all-costs jack wagon came in here and turned our football program into another FSU/PSU. No freaking way!
 

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Clearly you don't know me as well as you think then. No way would I ever be happy if some win-at-all-costs jack wagon came in here and turned our football program into another FSU/PSU. No freaking way!
Yes you would, secretly. Maybe even openly.
 

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Winner or not, he works at a place that promotes the acceptance of pedophilia and the acceptance and idolization of those who commit and condone such unacceptable acts. **** him and the 'university' he works for.
 

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