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Mac and Company on the Trail
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Wait till you have one and she says watch with me daddieOkay well I've seen neither of those, because, ya know, I'm not a girl.
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It was Van diesel.... pitch black
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Now it makes sense
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Going by headline only.
@GatorBait247: #Gators help their chances for 5-star DE LaBryan Ray w/ strong visit (VIP) https://florida.247sports.com/Article/5-star-DE-LaBryan-Ray-enjoys-Florida-Gators-visit-50910274
@GatorBait247: #Gators help their chances for 5-star DE LaBryan Ray w/ strong visit (VIP) https://florida.247sports.com/Article/5-star-DE-LaBryan-Ray-enjoys-Florida-Gators-visit-50910274
- Jun 11, 2014
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Hope they didn't let CC anywhere near him during his visit. Not sure he'd enjoy the story of being one of the Nation's top DEs losing 20lbs and being forced to play inside severely underweight regardless.
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I've always been of the opinion that if you're top 10-12 on an annual basis, you fill your needs and you avoid situations like we had a few years in a row where we signed guys but lost like 60%+ of them in the first 18 months, you'll be just fine. Here's a hypothetical; what if we finished #10 nationally every year and the 9 teams in front of us were all SEC programs...do you really believe that in the Win/Lose column on the field we'll finish 10th in the conference every year, OR ANY YEAR FOR THAT MATTER? No, unless the coaching just flat out sucks. One of the reasons is that the difference between the 9th and 10th classes in my example may be one star on one player and the difference between #4 and #10 may be a star on a few players. Would we like to be #1, 2 or 3 in the country every year? Sure, but it's not mandatory...and if the product on the field is winning games and exciting to watch, we'll grab the occasional top 5 class. Now, we also can't be finishing at #23 in the nation and 10th in the conference, that won't cut it.
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And by the way, I think somebody else posted a week or two ago the attrition list you asked about above but I can't remember who or in what post it was. Bama's attrition was extremely high, which probably isn't surprising to many people.
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Would you rather they have zero depth because we are unable to recruit what is deemed an SEC qb or have Appleby, Del Rio and Trask on the roster? I make the assumption Franks is the only SEC caliber qb that wears the orange and blue. Who would you have played if Franks had gotten hurt? I assume we would have gone Wild Cat if that scenario had played out.
Thoughts.....
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I'm of the opinion if you take care of recruiting QB, OL, and DL, you'll always be competitive. Perine was a 3* and if he had a top 5 OL he'd be on numerous lists. You can get by with 3* WR and LBs and secondary if you take care of QB and the LOS. You add a couple upper tier skill players a year and you can have a real nice team. This also means very little attrition and good evaluations. You can probably accomplish this with Top 15 classes. You also have slim margins for error. I think you need to be top 10 but stay in the 5-7 range. Every once in a while you dip into the top three.
Let's be real about Bama, they can only develop so many guys. I also think some of their evaluations showed up in their secondary, but they kill it on the front seven. If we want to beat Bama, we need a stout OL with RBs and TEs who understand how to pick up blocks. We also need a QB who can read and react.
Let's be real about Bama, they can only develop so many guys. I also think some of their evaluations showed up in their secondary, but they kill it on the front seven. If we want to beat Bama, we need a stout OL with RBs and TEs who understand how to pick up blocks. We also need a QB who can read and react.
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https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/want-a-national-title-sign-top-ten-classes-020316
Your post is total bullshyt. Total. I have 5-10 of these articles disproving your opinion. Stars matter. No matter how many times you pumpers post otherwise. it is FACT. It is PROVEN.
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A post the other day got me to thinking about this piece of conventional recruiting "wisdom." It dawned on me that what matters is not what the universe of 3 star players do on average but what those 3 star players who are signed by top teams do. Now the issue will be are top teams all of the power 5 teams or maybe the historically good power 5 teams. [If I have time in the next couple of months, I am thinking about gathering the data to look at this.]
As for the article you linked, it raises two interesting questions:
1. To what extent is cause and effect mixed up. That is to what extent are the recruiting rankings driven by the top schools offering someone.
2. How many teams that do not win national titles each year also averaged 2.5 top 10 classes over prior to that year? If there are several each year, then multiple top 10 recruiting classes won't do it for you.
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You should get your facts straight, I've never been a pumper and have been just as critical of Mac & Co. as almost anybody on this board. Secondly, LEARN TO FCVKING READ AND COMPREHEND! I never said stars don't matter and I clearly stated that if you're consistently finishing top 10-12 while getting the occasional top 5 class (WHICH EFFECTIVELY WOULD BE A TOP 10 AVERAGE) then you'll be fine. The link you posted, which says finish in the top 10 consistently, lines up almost point for point with my post, you fcvking nimrod!
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You posted this..
That is not true. We'll never beat Bama or FSU under your scenario let alone win any titles. Your contention that your post lines up with that article is patently false. Stomping your feet like a child doesn't help you any. In fact, you are all over the board. You are trying to rationalize 10-12 ranked classes. It did not work. Keep trying though.
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Yeah constantly ranking 10-12 ain't gonna cut it unless maybe you happen to pull an all world QB.
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Even the national media isn't pulling punches:
FLORIDA FLOPS
Yes, the Gators could flip Brandon and Breyon Gaddy away from Maryland and should land four-star wide receiver James Robinson, and I’m sure they will add a few more three-stars and perhaps another four-star here or there. Despite all of that, this class has been a bit of a disaster for Jim McElwain and his staff from the start. They will be scrambling to pull into the national top 20, which is ridiculous based on Florida's brand name and the program's back-to-ba ck SEC East titles.
FLORIDA FLOPS
Yes, the Gators could flip Brandon and Breyon Gaddy away from Maryland and should land four-star wide receiver James Robinson, and I’m sure they will add a few more three-stars and perhaps another four-star here or there. Despite all of that, this class has been a bit of a disaster for Jim McElwain and his staff from the start. They will be scrambling to pull into the national top 20, which is ridiculous based on Florida's brand name and the program's back-to-ba ck SEC East titles.
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