My take on UF and Mullen after 8 games

[NOLAGATOR]

Because it's delusional?

Really? How?

de·lu·sion·al
- characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Please tell me...or us what pray tell did I say that contradicts reality?

 

[lagator]

Understood.

But look what Mullen is doing with the same talent Chump and MacShark had.

Yes, yes, yes, we are much better, Mac was a low point and Mullen has surprised me. I was wrong about Mullen and like him much better as a HC than I did as our OC.

This team has some pretty decent talent which is why we've had some impressive wins. And Mullen and his staff have done a pretty good job using and even overachieving with the talent available. But we need to shore up some positions and definitely need more depth. I also think RB and TE has been under-utilized but Mullen is a lot better OC than me so what do I know.

I'm with you, we have hope, but it might only be hope if we don't figure out how to recruit at an elite level.

 

[lagator]

Really? How?

de·lu·sion·al
- characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

Please tell me...or us what pray tell did I say that contradicts reality?

Because you are making random statements about phantom antagonists. "Y'all can't have it both ways."

Who TF are you talking about based on what?

 

[T REX]

I've never seen so many positive threads after losing to a rival. Even I appreciate the job Mullen is doing but lets pump the breaks. The schedule isn't nearly as tough as it looked in August and he isn't scoring on decent teams. Lots of room for improvement. Yes, we seem to be moving in the right direction. But there's a ways to go. We absolutely have to beat FSU.

 

[NOLAGATOR]

Because you are making random statements about phantom antagonists. "Y'all can't have it both ways."

Who TF are you talking about based on what?

Geez:

You posted I was drunk?

I know we need better talent...Mullen has said that.

I know we are not a Championship Team.

I did not even want Mullen at first but I really like what I see.

 

[GatorJB]

Mullen is getting this team to play slightly better than their recruiting ranking, which is what he typically did at MSU too. I think our average recruiting class the last 4 years is 15 or 16, and we're currently at 13 and 14 in the AP and coaches poll. If we win out and win the bowl game, we may sneak into the top 10 to finish the year, but finishing between 10-15 is likely.

Compared to what we've seen the last several years, a top 15 team and a top 50 offense in points per game is certainly a big step in the right direction. It's a good sign that if Mullen can bring in some higher ranked recruiting classes, then we will be legit title contenders. I'm still not sure if Mullen can bring in those top recruiting classes, but I'm certainly hoping he does.

 

[lagator]

I've never seen so many positive threads after losing to a rival. Even I appreciate the job Mullen is doing but lets pump the breaks. The schedule isn't nearly as tough as it looked in August and he isn't scoring on decent teams. Lots of room for improvement. Yes, we seem to be moving in the right direction. But there's a ways to go. We absolutely have to beat FSU.

I thought we all knew this was about as easy a schedule we are going to see compared to what we can typically expect.

Difficulty scoring is at least partly because we don't have the right fit at QB. We have to hope EJ is developing at an adequate pace to take over and elevate QB play next year, especially since O-line is going to look a lot different and a lot younger.

In the meantime I think we should try to lean more on O-line and RB's since that is definitely a team strength that probably could carry more of the load, pun intended. Ball control and running is probably going to be critical against Mizzou because I doubt we are going to win in a shootout. UK held them in check though, so maybe their passing game is over-rated.

 

[Gatorraid81]

We are left upset at how they played Saturday's game because it was not like we usually play. .
The new world with DM is that we will learn much toward correction & prevention.
It was our "total bad things game" & against one of the nation's top teams, our "offness" got explosively exploited.

Pop quiz : Who thinks if we played UGa again in 4 weeks that they'd dominate us that easy again?(there's the truth)

Credit's all DM's, due to UGa having the higher choice players. Their OL erased our pass-rush.
Lack of depth hurt in every practice day of 2 weeks, then hurt game day.
Many dump on Mullen's not being a top recruiter. (bet time-performance style improves that.) Still, we've got an HC
who will upgrade any 3*s ability when he gets them to start out with. That will bring the higher stars to his door.

I didn't feel we were dominated until the last 9 minutes of the 4th quarter. The fact that we had three turnovers and uga had none, and it was still a one score game until the last 9 minutes or so, tells me if we can close the talent gap on Kirby some, we should start beating him. The sad reality with a QB like Franks, your always gonna have to worry about those boneheaded plays from him, and the misses on a sure TD throw here and there . I thought we ran the ball ok on the dawgs, as a matter of fact until the very end, we must've been outrushing them. They piled up the rushing yards in the 4th and only outrushed us by 20. No matter how you look at it, still sucks losing to them. Just hoping for a strong close to the season and a surprisingly good recruiting class.

 

[NOLAGATOR]

I thought we all knew this was about as easy a schedule we are going to see compared to what we can typically expect.

Difficulty scoring is at least partly because we don't have the right fit at QB. We have to hope EJ is developing at an adequate pace to take over and elevate QB play next year, especially since O-line is going to look a lot different and a lot younger.

In the meantime I think we should try to lean more on O-line and RB's since that is definitely a team strength that probably could carry more of the load, pun intended. Ball control and running is probably going to be critical against Mizzou because I doubt we are going to win in a shootout. UK held them in check though, so maybe their passing game is over-rated.

We can lean on RBs but remember one of those turnovers was Scarlett and EC almost had one as well.
so what happens next year? Do we keep starting Franks or go to EJ?

 

[lagator]

We can lean on RBs but remember one of those turnovers was Scarlett and EC almost had one as well.
so what happens next year? Do we keep starting Franks or go to EJ?

I would guess (and prefer) EJ, but who the hell knows really.

I liked the way they sat Scarlett for a couple series after he got careless with the ball. He ran really hard and with both arms locked on the ball after that. Would have been nice if he did that before a costly turnover though. But I am pretty convinced though that Perine is our best back right now and would like to see him fed enough to potentially take over a game one of these times.

 

[T REX]

I thought we all knew this was about as easy a schedule we are going to see compared to what we can typically expect.

Difficulty scoring is at least partly because we don't have the right fit at QB. We have to hope EJ is developing at an adequate pace to take over and elevate QB play next year, especially since O-line is going to look a lot different and a lot younger.

In the meantime I think we should try to lean more on O-line and RB's since that is definitely a team strength that probably could carry more of the load, pun intended. Ball control and running is probably going to be critical against Mizzou because I doubt we are going to win in a shootout. UK held them in check though, so maybe their passing game is over-rated.

I thought we would be playing 5/6 ranked teams prior to the season. Now, it looks like LSU , UGA and UK and maybe(I doubt it) MSU end up ranked. FSU and South Carolina aren't close to how I thought they would be.

Stoops is probably the COY front runner. Mullen should be a close 2nd.

 

[g8tr72]

Stoops is probably the COY front runner. Mullen should be a close 2nd.

Possibly.

I've got UK losing to UGA and then to Tenn in the next two games.

 

[T REX]

Possibly.

I've got UK losing to UGA and then to Tenn in the next two games.

Even at 5-3(SEC) he probably deserves it. Hell, Mullen has exactly ONE SEC season better than .500. Soon to be 2 though...which is nice.

 

[lagator]

I thought we would be playing 5/6 ranked teams prior to the season. Now, it looks like LSU , UGA and UK and maybe(I doubt it) MSU end up ranked. FSU and South Carolina aren't close to how I thought they would be.

Stoops is probably the COY front runner. Mullen should be a close 2nd.

We never have what one could call an easy schedule but I thought the schedule set up pretty nicely with the OOC trash, FSU coming off a terrible season, getting dumped and making a bad hire and LSU at home, UT, MSU, FSU all breaking in new coaches. Next year and most that follow have the potential to be tougher.

Agree, Stoops is COTY with Mullen getting honorable mention.

 

[T REX]

We never have what one could call an easy schedule but I thought the schedule set up pretty nicely with the OOC trash, FSU coming off a terrible season, getting dumped and making a bad hire and LSU at home, UT, MSU, FSU all breaking in new coaches. Next year and most that follow have the potential to be tougher.

Agree, Stoops is COTY with Mullen getting honorable mention.

Yeah, I guess you're right. I thought if Mullen went 2-2 or 2-3 vs the ranked teams we would have a decent season.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Because you are making random statements about phantom antagonists. "Y'all can't have it both ways."

Who TF are you talking about based on what?

“phantom antagonist” is how we roll at gatorchatter.

 

[Gatorraid81]

I would guess (and prefer) EJ, but who the hell knows really.

I liked the way they sat Scarlett for a couple series after he got careless with the ball. He ran really hard and with both arms locked on the ball after that. Would have been nice if he did that before a costly turnover though. But I am pretty convinced though that Perine is our best back right now and would like to see him fed enough to potentially take over a game one of these times.

If Franks connects on the first play, the fumble doesn’t happen. 14 point swing just like that. I agree with you on Perine though, he deserves more touches.

 

[lagator]

Yeah, I guess you're right. I thought if Mullen went 2-2 or 2-3 vs the ranked teams we would have a decent season.

Looks like you were right. Beat Toothless and LSU, lost to UK and fuking UGA. Still need to take care of the rest for it to be a very good season. One more loss, good season, 2 more losses, meh.

 

[RiverRat]

Some solid points. But this is where I think things go off the rails a little bit and we end up with a 7 page fight that becomes absolute vs absolute. We played poorly in several critical series, and it cost us. While he's not wearing a helmet, that still falls on his shoulders to a degree. Mullen is handsomely paid to win, and when he doesn't, outside of some very rare instances, he's going to take at least some of the blame. But that doesn't mean you have to ignore the talent deficiencies that we obviously have at key spots. The only reason this game even had the meaning that it did is because of the job he and his staff have done to put us in the conversation. So some balance needs to be applied here. We need to get back to maximizing the talent we do have, while having some perspective of our season. I didn't like much of what I saw Saturday, but still feel we're in good hands and on the right path.

Hopefully we regroup this week and rally for a challenging two weeks to finish conference play then get ready to crush the noles.

I really like that "crush the Nole " part.

 

[Lake Gator]

If Franks connects on the first play, the fumble doesn’t happen. 14 point swing just like that. I agree with you on Perine though, he deserves more touches.

Why are you yelling?

Becuz so many of us ole farts on hear are hard of hearing.