Dan Mullen is...

[Swamp Donkey]

Stand by for heavy rolls... Many (most?) on this board don’t care about any sport other than football. A few care about basketball, but it nosedives from there. You’ll see snide comments about the all sports trophies.

Yes, when you are rolling 4-8 teams out there, no one cares about the bullshyt non revenue sports.


Actually the fact that the are nonrevenue TELLS you in advance that no one cares.

 

[Marine1]

A successful sports program and a successful football team do not have to be mutually exclusive.

I follow Gator basketball, baseball, and even softball. If I’m in town I’ll attend just about anything. But I actually plan trips to catch basketball and baseball. Basketball is always entertaining and come on....a weekend baseball day game outside in the spring? You gotta enjoy that!

 

[ThreatMatrix]

I care about baseball when we get to the World Series.
I care about basketball when we get to the Sweet 16 (and whenever we play KY)
I care about football 24/7/365

 

[RocketCityGator]

While I agree recruiting is very important, how you measure it is also very important. Stars are not the critical element, but rather the fit. Do you want to be a Gator? Do you have the capability to play in the SEC? Do you have the attitude that we require, but others might not? Do you respect academics? Stars only could a little according to me.

Sorry I have to disagree Chief. For pretty much any field, when recruiting, your first filter is skills and/or potential. Then once candidates pass the "skills" test, you then filter on fit, personality, buy-in, etc. In college football, stars are a measure either skills/potential; hence the first filter for a list of candidates.

 

[RocketCityGator]

I don't think I voiced anything against him. I tend to agree with BMF on this one.


However, I suspect that he's a guy I wouldn't like or want as a part of our program from a perspective that isn't X's and O's. I'll never forget Grantham's choke sign to our punter Chas Henry, when he was taking on place kicking duties (Though Henry said he didn't think it was a big deal). During Saturday's game, I'm pretty sure I saw him taunting the Mississippi State fans near the end of the game. That's a bad, bad look. With that kind of discretion, I would not be surprised (perhaps even expect) some scandal to hit him. I hope it doesn't, especially while he's coaching for UF, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it.

I think he's probably a much better coach than man.

Yes, Grantham called a solid game against MSU. But man, I still want to lose my lunch when I see him on the sidelines.

 

[ChiefGator]

Sorry I have to disagree Chief. For pretty much any field, when recruiting, your first filter is skills and/or potential. Then once candidates pass the "skills" test, you then filter on fit, personality, buy-in, etc. In college football, stars are a measure either skills/potential; hence the first filter for a list of candidates.

Not a problem, when I had to recruit a new employee first they must fit into our organization, now of course they must also have competency, but a great employee that fights with their co-workers is worse than no employee.

Thanks for the response.

 

[lagator]

Says who? I like him a lot better than I did a few months ago.

Hell, I don't even much care what the record is this year, so long as we show improvement and hopefully land a great class (that seems impossible at this point).

I'm with Donkey here. I'm definitely impressed with the progress Mullen has made with this group. Getting these guys to buy in and play as hard as they have been for 4 Q's is no small feat.

But if he doesn't get recruiting way up this could be one of his most talented teams for the next several years, depending on which juniors depart.

Beat LSU and that has to help recruiting a lot, even if stats don't always show a direct correlation between new coaches record and first few recruiting class rankings.

He should go talk to Mike White to see what his magic is, because he is killing it. Of course the BB team has maintained a lot more success than FB over the last decade so you might expect BB recruiting to be a little easier sell. Still, White looks like one of the top recruiters in the nation right now so no harm in picking his brain.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

I'm with Donkey here. I'm definitely impressed with the progress Mullen has made with this group. Getting these guys to buy in and play as hard as they have been for 4 Q's is no small feat.

But if he doesn't get recruiting way up this could be one of his most talented teams for the next several years, depending on which juniors depart.

Beat LSU and that has to help recruiting a lot even, if stats don't a;ways show a direct correlation between new coaches record and first few recruiting class ranking. He should go talk to Mike White to see what his magic is, because he is killing it. Of course the BB team has maintained a lot more success than FB over the last decade so you might expect BB recruiting to be a little easier sell. Still, White looks like one of the top recruiters in the nation right now so no harm in picking his brain.

couldn't agree more, recruiting is nothing more than salesmanship. The same concepts translate to any sport. Whatever white is doing, we need some of it in the football program.

 

[lagator]

Really? Now LSU is not a "good" team? Like their offense or not, they rank 6th now, undefeated so far.

Stop moving the goal post. Mullen is doing what he needs to do so far.

They are a good team, just not a great team. And I don't know why anyone would have predicted us to have no chance in this game before the season, but that would just be based on ignorance. We beat them 2 yrs ago and were a play or 2 away from winning last year, and of course we have them at home again this year.

Everyone expects this to be a close game between 2 pretty evenly matched good, not great teams which is why Vegas has us less than a FG dogs. If we were playing a great team like Bama we would be minimum of 17 point underdogs and more likely over 3 TD dogs.

This is a very winnable game, but if we don't win it doesn't mean the players or coaches suck. It's expected be close affair that could go either way, although I actually predicted a 10 point win for us, but that might just be homerism.

 

[B52G8rAC]

Sorry I have to disagree Chief. For pretty much any field, when recruiting, your first filter is skills and/or potential. Then once candidates pass the "skills" test, you then filter on fit, personality, buy-in, etc. In college football, stars are a measure either skills/potential; hence the first filter for a list of candidates.

First filter should be academic capability. STUDENT/athlete. First SAT/ACT scores, then grades in real course work, then sports skill. Boy am I prepared to be skewered.

 

[ChiefGator]

First filter should be academic capability. STUDENT/athlete. First SAT/ACT scores, then grades in real course work, then sports skill. Boy am I prepared to be skewered.

I agree as long a capability is not to meet the common UF standard, but rather to have success in academics given all the advantages that players have. Like you say they are to be students first, and if you can't make it as a student your ability to play will go away eventually.

 

[78]

Yes, when you are rolling 4-8 teams out there, no one cares about the bullshyt non revenue sports.


Actually the fact that the are nonrevenue TELLS you in advance that no one cares.

You act as if this is novel or unique to Florida. As long as there has been college athletics, there have been non-revenue sports.

Hell, maybe we should eliminate everything but the profitable sports from the Olympic Games as well. They're a drag on the system. We can make it a four-day event.

 

[Detroitgator]

Marked for Death

 

[rogdochar]

[QUOTE="CGgate You’ll see snide comments about the all sports trophies.[/QUOTE]

What? When it comes to UF winning the "All Sports Trophy", GC's got no sports ??

 

[Theologator]

I’ve always taken LSU as the first real test of the program. We always learn a lot about the team against them. 2012 was the best season since 2009 and the second-half bulldozing the OL did on LSU was, along with the F$U game, among the best moments.

But the big test comes in the grind. Big, physical win vs. MSU followed by mighty LSU, trap morning game on the road at dreary Vandy, then UGA. That’s where the separation of average to good to great gets defined and their mental toughness is really tested. And it’s that grind that separates the SEC from every other conference. Most teams have a murderous October schedule. (Bama does not.) The survivors will earn their rankings.

It’s good and frankly a significant change from prior years that we’re relatively healthy. Losing Wilson hurt, he’s one of our best players, but so far that’s it. Chalk that up to training under Savage and the effort emphasis.

It’s good that they are rotating guys a ton and spreading the ball around, too.

 

[Slevin]

1-0 against ranked teams at Florida

BUMP FOR THE HATERS. 2-0 against ranked teams BYTCHEs! What a game!!!!

 

[Jbossgator8]