GCMB Poll: Best college football offense ever

[78]

As good as the 2008 offense was, I think the defense was even better.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

As good as the 2008 offense was, I think the defense was even better.

The 2008 offense was good, the 2008 defense was better, and 2008 STs were all time great. Really almost all the Creyer STs were.

You talk about James, Rainey and Cooper but their standout contributions in 08 were STs.

 

[78]

The 2008 offense was good, the 2008 defense was better, and 2008 STs were all time great. Really almost all the Creyer STs were.

You talk about James, Rainey and Cooper but their standout contributions in 08 were STs.

Not really. I'm posting team stats from each year. Look at how the 2008 team spread the ball around. And the quarterback was a dual threat.

 

[Gator Fever]

I'm not sure if Frazier was that good or we were that bad. I welcome anyone to revisit the tape. That's PAL-level tackling.

Yep the defense had basically checked out by that point. They weren't ready at all for that punishing rushing attack of Nebraska.

 

[GatorJ]

1996 scored LOTS of points and put the teams away in the first half, then played backups and ran out the clock. 2008 scored mostly in the fourth quarter and made close games look worse than they were.

2008 was basically two great players. 1996, the receivers were three deep, the RBs three deep, Erik Kresser set some school records as a backup. The OL was the only one that is questionable. Id say 2008 had a better OL and especially better depth.

It isn't close. At all.

It was an offense that was basically shut down by the 95 Nebraska team. The 2008 offense was a monster.

2008 would’ve clobbered the 96 team.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Not really. I'm posting team stats from each year. Look at how the 2008 team spread the ball around. And the quarterback was a dual threat.

The stats werent spread all around. The stats were the Tebow and Harvin.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

It was an offense that was basically shut down by the 95 Nebraska team. The 2008 offense was a monster.

2008 would’ve clobbered the 96 team.

Lol, 1996 would have beaten Ole Miss at home 52-14. And everyone else.

 

[78]

The stats werent spread all around. The stats were the Tebow and Harvin.

1,674 rushing yards between Demps, Rainey and Moody, each over seven yards a carry. I don't know how you can minimize that.

But really what it comes down to is how the yards came. They came more on the ground with the 2008 team, through the air with the 1996 team.

And, yes, the 1996 offense was prettier to watch. Spurrier was masterful at understanding opponents' weaknesses and calling plays, esp the ones that few people saw coming.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

1,674 rushing yards between Demps, Rainey and Moody, each over seven yards a carry. I don't know how you can minimize that.

Because they were terrible backs who only managed yardage because the defense collapse on Tebow.

I'm sure you really enjoyed the offense once Tebow left and we featured Demps and Rainey. Boy that was some fun. Average yardage also isn't nearly as usual stats as mean. Getting stuff on 19 carries then breaking one 20 yarder and one 80 yarder still looks nice on the stat sheet but it means almost no actual scoring and too many three and outs. Demps was especially bad at that. (There are advanced stats for "stuffs" less than 3 yards but I don't know where to find them now.)

Moody was actually the most capable of the three. Mike Gillislee was more capable still. Remember mocking me when I said that in 2010 and 2011? When I suggested Demps should sit and KR, Rainey should be a slot receiver or CB, and the other backs should play? It was not so much of a bizarre opinion after 2012, but I'm sure you remember it if I prod you, right?

But really what it comes down to is how the yards came. They came more on the ground with the 2008 team, through the air with the 1996 team.

Yards don't matter, points do.

But early points and blowouts also matter. You don't have to worry about a late turnover vs Ole Miss or a missed FG if you blow out most teams and they've quit by halftime.

 

[Captain Sasquatch]

Law has an irrational hatred of the ‘08 offense that boggles the mind. Just let it go.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Law has an irrational hatred of the option.

It is because it is a high risk, low reward offense.

 

[78]

Because they were terrible back who only managed yardage because the defense collapse on Tebow.

I'm sure you really enjoyed the offense once Tebow left and we featured Demps and Rainey. Boy that was some fun.

Moody was actually the most capable of the three. Mike Gillislee was more capable still. Remember mocking me when I said that in 2010 and 2011?

2008 was a scheme designed to exploit opponents. If it involved opening a hole for Demps that allowed him to utilize his burst and bolt straight through for a 20-yard gain, that was just as effective as Wuerffel to Hilliard over the middle for the same yardage.

You're somehow trying to push the narrative that the 1996 team had better athletes. I think you're very wrong. It had a very intelligent, resourceful and resilient quarterback, average receivers and one extremely talented back who was a year away. It had a great playcaller in Spurrier.

Overall I give the edge to 2008. An almost impossible offense to stop because it could come at you so many different ways combined with great special teams and great defense. That Florida team is maybe one of the best three of alltime.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Again, stats talk, bullshyt walks. 96 averaged one more TD per game and 500 yards a game, while taking the second half off.

Running into the strength of SEC defenses isn't how you exploit them. Its is how you lose to fvkking Ole Siss at home, all while running out the clock and trying to shortening the game.
the game.

96 had three all american receivers (Anthony, Reidel, and Quez EDIT: four, forgot sorry McGriff) and one all american RB (Taylor). 08 had one AA APB. (Both had AA Heisman QBs of course.)

I DO think the 08 team was more talented and that SOS could have made 1000 yard receivers out of five or six of those guys, but that is a different issue.

 

[78]

Stats? You didn't watch any of the games in 2008?

 

[78]

We couldn't protect the quarterback, our Achilles' heel, and got beat at Doak in 1996. We kicked their ass there in 2008.

 

[78]

Actually, did Meyer ever lose to FSU? Can't say that about Spurrier.

Gotta win those rivalry games.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

We couldn't protect the quarterback, our Achilles' heel, and got beat at Doak in 1996. We kicked their ass there in 2008.

Four starting OL out. Bad luck and not enough depth.

It is why I acknowledged the OL from 08 was better.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Actually, did Meyer ever lose to FSU? Can't say that about Spurrier.

Gotta win those rivalry games.

Clown Town was trash when Creyer was here. A 7-5 team.

 

[78]

Four starting OL out. Bad luck and not enough depth.

It is why I acknowledged the OL from 08 was better.

Four? I watched that game. I don't remember us being that depleted. Had we gone to the shotgun yet?

 

[78]

Clown Town was trash when Creyer was here. A 7-5 team.

That's what happens when you dominate recruiting.