Hires made, pressure off, Foley says
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- Jun 11, 2014
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Yeah, this thread isn't going to stir the pot. 
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GatorJ;n228938 said:
Exactly correct and if we played much better with a full roster everyone would have been happy and he would still be here.
- Jun 10, 2014
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I couldn't agree more. I think Foley felt pressured to retain WM an additional year due to the injury situation because he didn't want to have the perception of an AD that pulled the trigger too quickly...especially after WM was the SEC COY the prior year. I didn't agree with the extra year and knew it was only a matter of time. Obviously, that was the case and it's caused the football program to be even further behind in it's return to glory. We all want Mac to be successful and I think he will be...but Foley NEEDS him to be successful. Now, let the Law brigade flame away!GatorJ;n228938 said:
- Jun 12, 2014
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Muschamp was considered a good hire when it happened. The staff that was built looked to be a solid staff. But it ended up being a cluster****. The problem wasn't the initial hire, it was the extensions and the holding on for another year. The injuries in 2013 made an convent excuse with a COY winner the previous year to keep him as MJM mentioned. We all wanted Muschamp when he came to be successful, and most were cheering how he handled the off-field stuff when he came on. The problem, is he proved he is a coordinator at best.
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Who's fault was it that we didn't have a full roster?VulcanAlex;n228942 said:
- Jun 14, 2014
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As I watch the Softball and Baseball teams win games in the post season (championship starts tonight for Softball) and I think of the success UF has had in athletics I don't think that Foley "NEEDS" anybody to succeed. While Football is the biggest and most impactful sports, I actually enjoying seeing UF succeed in all sports. I am proud that UF has built a culture of winning across its athletic program that goes beyond Football. The success Billy Donovan had is nothing short of miraculous. Think of how many fans ever get to see their teams win championships... it isn't many. What is even more impressive is that outside of some of the issues Urban Meyer had, the culture has always been one of winning with class. I respect and appreciate that since I believe as an alumni the way the school is portrayed represents me and I see how much more poorly FSU students are viewed after all the issues their Football team has had.
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Foley will only ever leave UF on his own terms. He's good a bit overrated. But gymnastics has won 3 in a row and softball is going for 2 in a row. But football was bad and hoops was shockingly terrible this season. He should be feeling the pressure but he isn't. Men's sports at UF are coming up small this entire school year. They have for a couple years. That needs to change.
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While Football was bad, and he (Foley) can take some of the credit on letting a bad coach stay too long; I'd argue it is hard for Foley to take any of the blame for Basketball being bad. We had a 20 yr coach who could stay as long as he wanted, as he'd earned it. It isn't like he was going to boot Billy D for a bad year. And what other male sports are lagging? Baseball? No. Track and Field? No. Swimming and Diving? No. Where besides Basketball (not Foley's fault at all) and Football (partly Foley's fault) are we lagging?
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I love when people start talking about gymnastics to justify why Fooley is still employed.
If the heat was off, then Fooley wouldn't be doing these poorly executed PR repair attempts.
If the heat was off, then Fooley wouldn't be doing these poorly executed PR repair attempts.
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Law98gator;n229082 said:
I'm not sure why they do that either.....didn't that coach just quit also.
Here's the thing with me, I don't blame Foley 100% for football....he had a decision to make and guessed wrong, we've all done that. I don't totally blame him for Bball, although I think he could have done more to keep Billy. What I find fault in is letting us fall behind where we should be in the two biggest sports facility wise and the hiring process that he used replacing the two biggest sports coaches. I do put the blame squarely on his shoulders for Muschamp's contract and buyout.
- Jun 12, 2014
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I think this Texas hold'em analogy may fit Foley's situation with Muschamp:
Foley get's dealt a suited King and ten of clubs (Muschamp) and bets (hires him). Other AD's stay in and others raise, but interestingly Foley counter raises a (gives Muschamp extension after one year) and everyone calls. Then on the flop you see a 7, 8, and a 10 all spades (year 2). Foley has a pair of tens and still has the high pair, but you still have to be worried about the straight and flush draw (poor offense in spite of winning).
After a round of checking, the next card is an Ace of Spades (year 3). There's not only a chance that Foley doesn't have the high pair anymore, but now it's a no brainer that someone at the table has a Ace-high flush. A couple of moderate bets hit the table, and for some reason Foley felt committed to stay in. My guess it was because he raised the pot before the flop and he felt committed to this hand. Anyways the fifth card is a 4 of clubs (year 4), so Foley is stuck with his pair of tens. During the round of betting, guys start going all-in. Foley decides to fold to salvage what chips he has left, but the damage was already done.
Foley get's dealt a suited King and ten of clubs (Muschamp) and bets (hires him). Other AD's stay in and others raise, but interestingly Foley counter raises a (gives Muschamp extension after one year) and everyone calls. Then on the flop you see a 7, 8, and a 10 all spades (year 2). Foley has a pair of tens and still has the high pair, but you still have to be worried about the straight and flush draw (poor offense in spite of winning).
After a round of checking, the next card is an Ace of Spades (year 3). There's not only a chance that Foley doesn't have the high pair anymore, but now it's a no brainer that someone at the table has a Ace-high flush. A couple of moderate bets hit the table, and for some reason Foley felt committed to stay in. My guess it was because he raised the pot before the flop and he felt committed to this hand. Anyways the fifth card is a 4 of clubs (year 4), so Foley is stuck with his pair of tens. During the round of betting, guys start going all-in. Foley decides to fold to salvage what chips he has left, but the damage was already done.
