Ancient Reptile
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Interesting the nfl makes use of him.
Ho Hum... Another 3 Star
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I didn't really look at his rankings, but I did notice that he led us in scoring one year.
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We get it. You would prefer to have two and three stars over four and five stars.
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We get it. You prefer to beoutch about our 3 stars rather than appreciate we are currently sitting with the #10 class and are in the running for some major 4 and 5 stars who are not and will not make their decisions until much later. Unlike the Muschamp years, I expect we will close some of those major players at the end rather than whiffing on them all like Mussy tended to do.
We have a current #10 class with the potential to close as much, much stronger. Does anybody see this class getting weaker? I see it getting way better in the next 2 1/2 months... Where exactly is the fire and it it possible for that piss and vinegar to put it out?
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Find one time in any of my posts that I said that. I actually put up a list of the five star and four-star recruits we are still in the running for. All I said is that we have too many three-star cornerbacks.
- Jun 12, 2014
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Well... name one time that I said I would prefer a bunch of 2 and 3 stars to any 4 and 5 stars...
This is Gatorchatter. There is no room for common sense of logical discussion here.
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Close as we are to our max projected number with 2 1/2 monthes to go tells me that some of Muschamp's 3 stars(dead weight) are going to get the "look son" talking to from Mac after the season ends.....Make room for the money makers boys cause I see us ending up with five or six 5 Stars before we're done on NSD.
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I just want to clarify my position, because I tend to play devils advocate. I'm not really a fan of classes loaded with either 5* guys or 3* guys. I think there should be a blend of the two, but primarily have a class of 4* kids. I think the coaches have to consider the locker room and possible transfer issues down the road.
I think there are also positions where stars play a huge role in predicting success. OL and DT are two positions that don't require high star ratings. I do think the analysts are getting better at predicting these positions, but not like other positions. I think the positions where stars matter most are CB, QB, and DE.
So yes, I see J & Law's point about the 3* CB. I also see him as a project and a means to land Wilson (who is a must get). I think it's a worthwhile pick up if we get Wilson and he is able to contribute at all. We have Wilson and Tabor starting next year with Garner in the fold. I think the next cycle we'll need to land a couple of stud CB's if we don't pick another one up this year.
I think there are also positions where stars play a huge role in predicting success. OL and DT are two positions that don't require high star ratings. I do think the analysts are getting better at predicting these positions, but not like other positions. I think the positions where stars matter most are CB, QB, and DE.
So yes, I see J & Law's point about the 3* CB. I also see him as a project and a means to land Wilson (who is a must get). I think it's a worthwhile pick up if we get Wilson and he is able to contribute at all. We have Wilson and Tabor starting next year with Garner in the fold. I think the next cycle we'll need to land a couple of stud CB's if we don't pick another one up this year.
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I don't
I don't know if we'll get THAT many FIVE stars but I'd dang sure be happy. I see us signing a couple of 5 stars (maybe 3 if things really go right in recruiting) and several very high 4 stars (including Franks, Mac's coveted QB for this cycle). I also expect 2 or 3 of our current 3 stars to "de-commit" after getting a similar "Look son" speech that you were referring to. I think we'll end up with a class of around 28 or 29, maybe a couple more depending on early enrollees.
I don't know if we'll get THAT many FIVE stars but I'd dang sure be happy. I see us signing a couple of 5 stars (maybe 3 if things really go right in recruiting) and several very high 4 stars (including Franks, Mac's coveted QB for this cycle). I also expect 2 or 3 of our current 3 stars to "de-commit" after getting a similar "Look son" speech that you were referring to. I think we'll end up with a class of around 28 or 29, maybe a couple more depending on early enrollees.
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I can see why a 5 star corner doesn't wanna come in and sit behind wilson and tabor. Then have to compete with gardener for playing time aswell. I think we reached on some of the lower rated prospects just to get the ball rolling on this class.
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Solid post. Too many 5 stars lead to ego and locker room issues. A strong class of 4 stars and some projects and special teamers that are 3 star and below are needed to balance the mix.
OL has the highest chance of failure as 5 stars from what I've seen. I'm ok with stocking up 3 and 4 star OL with a 5 star mixed in every now and then.
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If the kid committed to Bama doesn't flip, then I'd assume we could at the very least give a preferred walk on spot to someone in state. So no, no good news
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We have a great chance of flipping a Bama commit.
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Oh yeah... I read about that kid. Isn't he a Florida product too? Sure hope he picks to good guys.
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Yep. If he can't see the opportunity, then I don't know...
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Didn't I read somewhere in the past that a team can only have a maximum of 25 per class? I know EEs count against the previous year, and I assume we'll have a few of those, what else counts for or against a given year's numbers?
Ancient Reptile
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Let's see if there is broad agreement on a few points.
1) On average, 5 stars are more productive than 3 stars.
2) At corner back stars may matter a little more than on the O-line.
3) That said, Mac has demonstrated an ability to evaluate FB players (Callawy and Cronkrite), and some 3 star recruits look promising.
4) Mac stressesTEAM above all and his success with this concept would justify occasionally passing on a 5 star.
5) Mac closed strong last year and may do so again, so we should feel good about where we are.
Who is buying?
1) On average, 5 stars are more productive than 3 stars.
2) At corner back stars may matter a little more than on the O-line.
3) That said, Mac has demonstrated an ability to evaluate FB players (Callawy and Cronkrite), and some 3 star recruits look promising.
4) Mac stressesTEAM above all and his success with this concept would justify occasionally passing on a 5 star.
5) Mac closed strong last year and may do so again, so we should feel good about where we are.
Who is buying?
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you got it right, but it looks like we may be looking at 6+ EE's. So I assume we'll take close to the max if we can get them. I don't see Mac filling the rest with anything but 4 and 5* kids.
