Euro, you're the voice of reason. My opinion is 8-4 should be rock bottom for UF. We basically have at least 4 cupcakes on our schedule each year, which means a decent coach would need to go 4-4 against quality competition. I could have even stomached 7-5 last year with all of the injuries, but his team quit on him and dropped 7 in a row to fall to 4-8. That will NEVER be an acceptable result at UF.