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Mullen? I went back 5 years on Rivals and it is 25th. So, it's not like he was playing against teams(ranked or unranked) with 150lb linemen or 190 pound linebackers. One could argue he under performed with his talent. Seems like he never outschemed anyone.
You're right. Being ranked 25th in recruiting isn't all that bad. Until you consider that said ranking puts you consistently behind Lsu, Ala, Aub, Ala, OM and A&M(they tend to play those guys), not to mention the years they draw UF, uga, and/or Ut from the East. Every time he was in the game against any of those teams, let alone the times he won, you could credit it to his scheming.
I'm not sure one could attempt to call his performance at Msu underachieving, but I'm sure at least ONE will try.
Wouldn't you expect a GREAT coach to at least pull a few upsets? Mac could never ever beat those more talented teams. It was Mullen like but better. You are excusing his results but it's not like he was playing with blind kids. I would feel a lot better if he didn't have the worst record in history against ranked teams. You don't think that is worrisome?
Wouldn't you expect a GREAT coach to at least pull a few upsets? Mac could never ever beat those more talented teams. It was Mullen like but better. You are excusing his results but it's not like he was playing with blind kids. I would feel a lot better if he didn't have the worst record in history against ranked teams. You don't think that is worrisome?
Well this year alone he beat Lsu and A&M (and was within 7 of Alabama).
Last year he beat A&M and OM.
In 2015 he beat Auburn.
In 2014 Lsu, Auburn and A&m(5 point loss to Alabama)
many national analysts feel this is a great hire.
Agree to a point, but those moral victories that make you a hero in S-Ville wil get you fired in G-Ville.Well this year alone he beat Lsu and A&M (and was within 7 of Alabama).
Last year he beat A&M and OM.
In 2015 he beat Auburn.
In 2014 Lsu, Auburn and A&m(5 point loss to Alabama)
Every year he's beaten a few teams that had much more talent, and has played eventual NC teams to 3-6 point losses. I'm not excusing anything. I'm stating reality that his record is one of the more impressive out there given the circumstances. As I posted a week or so ago, if Ala or uga wins it all, that would make 6 times in 9 seasons that he had to play the eventual NC winner. And should one of those two make the finals, an additional 4 times he would'e faced the eventual runner up(not counting us in 2009). Forget names and coaching preferences. That stat is absurd. The West has chewed up and spit out coaches since 2008, either because they couldn't win enough or because they had to cheat to even stay close.
Again, I'm ok with having some worry about Mullen. I may even share certain concerns. But you could make just as much of an argument that Frost wasn't ready for the big stage with zero counter evidence. You could argue that Kelly and some of his baggage may have hindered him here in recruiting, not to mention his lack of SEC knowledge and insistence on tempo which has noted and irrefutable defensive side effects. Any and all candidates were going to carry their fair share of risks. I just see no point in focusing solely on the negatives and ignoring the numerous reasons many national analysts feel this is a great hire. I love to argue, and we've had some fun ones on here. But I honestly don't see a single reason to not sit back, hope for the best and try to enjoy UF football again.
The years he drew UF, UGA, and TN the teams were in a down year and didn't finish above .500 in the SEC. It speaks volumes to me that he only has 2 wins against teams with a winning SEC record knowing he had several opportunities and failed. My point is if you put Saban or Meyer as the coach at MSU with the same players the last 9 years they would have found a way to win more games against the elite teams. It might not have been a lot more games but they wouldn't have had a 6-32 record against top 25 teams, it would have been somewhere around 15-23.You're right. Being ranked 25th in recruiting isn't all that bad. Until you consider that said ranking puts you consistently behind Lsu, Ala, Aub, OM and A&M(they tend to play those guys), not to mention the years they draw UF, uga, and/or Ut from the East. Every time he was in the game against any of those teams, let alone the times he won, you could credit it to his scheming.
I'm not sure one could attempt to call his performance at Msu underachieving, but I'm sure at least ONE will try.
Is this a Justin Fields thread or our coach "Sucks" v. "no he doesn't suck" girl fight?
In 2014 LSU, Barn and A&M were all 8-5 that year. They sucked. 2015 Barn was 7-6. This is your evidence? Wow...I'm blown away.
Am I in the twilight zone? We heard all the same junk with Chump then with Mac and now the same with Mullen. Call me crazy...just not sold on Mullen. Gonna have to prove it.
We are all still Gators though and that is the most important thing of all.
The years he drew UF, UGA, and TN the teams were in a down year and didn't finish above .500 in the SEC. It speaks volumes to me that he only has 2 wins against teams with a winning SEC record knowing he had several opportunities and failed. My point is if you put Saban or Meyer as the coach at MSU with the same players the last 9 years they would have found a way to win more games against the elite teams. It might not have been a lot more games but they wouldn't have had a 6-32 record against top 25 teams, it would have been somewhere around 15-23.
Seems like he never outschemed anyone.