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Recruiting New DT Commit
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Our DC may not be able to recruit, but he does have a lot of SWAG JUICE!
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I remember him as being a pretty big recruit. Where do you see him being a three-star when we recruited him? He was a five-star recruit on every recruiting service.
When he committed to us he was a four star on both scout and rivals. 247 did not exist back then. I don't think ESPN recruiting did either.
http://www.scout.com/college/florida/story/565839-cameron-newton-says-i-m-going-to-be-a-gator
The rivals article saying he is a four star. It's an insider article but here's the link. Click the news hyperlink. You'll need to scroll down. He committed to us on 9/7/2006 as a four star quarterback. He ended up being the number 2 overall QB in the class. I think Scout had Brantley rated higher.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/41356
- Jun 14, 2014
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Shaver flipped because he wasn't going to qualify for UF. He is still working on getting qualified for FSU
http://seminolepost.blog.palmbeachp...-signee-shavar-manuel-working-on-eligibility/
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Yeah, I wasn't really talking about the Manual/Cook type defections. It was the caliber of players in your second paragraph that I was referring to. I know you're being a little tongue-in-cheek, but I found it very disheartening that guys like McWilliams, Wells, and Robinson were taking visits up until the final weekend, to places like Louisville. My point was if we're saying we've discovered a star in the making way before anyone else, then I'd like to think we could coerce them into a measure of loyalty. But it seemed like every time a new school offered one of our commits, they were immediately in the discussion and visits were planned. That kind of kills the whole "rather have guys who want to be Gators" argument.
I get that the 4-5* kids are going to make schools sweat it out. But we had kids like Joseph who were just about guaranteed immediate playing time at UF, the place who offered and stuck by him after his injury...and it was still basically a signing day decision because Alabama came in at the 11th hour. I said several times around NSD that our staff was not selling UF enough to these kids. They weren't closed. That tells me we have a problem.
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I'd love to see him fail to qualify, go JuCo, fail again, and eventually get flushed out of football all together.
::howdoItellthemthatbecauseoftheunfreezingprocessihavenoinnermonolgue::
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And maybe get a DUI somewhere along the way?
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The staff still should have had a Plan B kid on the hook somewhere. I'd rather sign a DT committed to an FAU or UCF vs signing zero DTs at all.
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Shavar should have never been the only option. We didn't sign any DTs the year before. We needed to sign FVKKING FOUR.... or five!!!! (In a Sabanesque defense a true DT/NT can play all three spots.) WTF are they thinking? DTs take two to three years to get big enough to play in the SEC.
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I agree with both of you that said we should have had a backup and o agree we should have known his academic standing. I just thought it was worth sharing that he flipped because FSU is easier
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If anyone looks at Bama's classes, they'll see that they always recruit multiple DT's. Seems like about 3 a cycle. Hard to project DT's, so you need numbers. I know you say it all the time.
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Thanks. Unlike some politicians I am willing to accept the written word. I still don't feel I am wrong by much. There has never been a question that he was a five star when he signed--a very big recruit. But he started out as a three star and rose. I see he was a four star when he committed but I would still be willing to lose money betting that he was a 3 star when offered. I remember people saying (joking?) that he was bumped up because offered. The rating services don't make it easy to find the history of their ratings, but you found he was a 4 star when he committed. Can you find his rating when offered? The point to all this being that rating services change their evaluations--sometimes by a great deal. Thanks again for the correction
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Like Bama we should have 8-10 down linemen every cycle. it's a numbers game, not all kids grow into their bodies. We haven't done that in the 6 years prior to McElwain.
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Is that like the 7 footer who thinks he is a guard... I guess as long as he isn't dropping back into coverage we are OK
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Pretty much. Like you said, you can trust rush end recruiting some, but not DT's or 3-4 ends
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Yeah, and even if they are good, they get hurt. 300lb men bashing on each other tend to do that.
We have way too many lightweight hybrid/projects. It's going to hurt us soon. We have only a few guys, Clark Brantley Ivie and Bryan, that are Dante Fowler sized (and many scouts thought he was actually a heavy LB) or larger. Sherit, Smith, Zuniga, Cox, Davis, Justus Reed, and Ancrum are all the size of Bammer's LBs. That's waaaay too damn many tweener projects. That isn't going to cut it.
