Truth Takes: 2023 Offensive Position Groups

[oxrageous]

I just don't have a good feeling about the oline, and I think that is the biggest factor in success this year. If the oline plays well we will be very competitive, but if not it's gonna be a brutal year.

I think the talent is solid, and more importantly I think we have quality coaching in that department. I have a good feeling about the o-line, so that cancels out your bad feeling.

 

[Theologator]

I just don't have a good feeling about the oline, and I think that is the biggest factor in success this year. If the oline plays well we will be very competitive, but if not it's gonna be a brutal year.

It may be a work in progress. Utah’s DL isn’t as undersized as some reports I’ve seen. They are experienced and very well coached. Ky is, too. The OL in November may look a lot better than September.

 

[TLB]

My barometer on the OL is how nervous the tuba players are about mid-season tryouts. We're good.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

If they can run, in the elevation, Rising and Kuithe would mean less

That ute boy has really gotten to you.

The elevation is a non story to me. Here's a list of the highest elevation stadiums in college football:

1. Wyoming (7,215)
2. Northern Arizona (6,980)
3. Air Force (6,620)
4. Southern Utah (5,796)
5. Colorado (5,360)
6. Colorado State (5,190)
7. New Mexico (5,100)
8. Montana State (4,946)
9. Northern Colorado (4,785)
10. Weber State (4,785)
11. Utah State (4,710)
12. Utah (4,657)
13. BYU (4,650)
14. Nevada (4,610)
15. Idaho State (4,568)
16. New Mexico State (3,980)
17. UTEP (3,910)
18. App State (3,252)
19. Monatana (3,222)
20. Texas Tech (3,215)

Note that none of these are considered intimidating places to play. I might worry about the elevation for the top 3, but no way am I worried about 4,600 ft.

I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

 

[Silverback Gator]

20. Texas Tech (3,215)
I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

Kind of a surprise. I would have thought no point in Texas is above 1000 sea level.

 

[Bernardo de la Paz]

Kind of a surprise. I would have thought no point in Texas is above 1000 sea level.

Yeah, more surprising than Texas tech is UTEP at 3,900.

 

[Mr2Bits]

I've mentioned this before, but we should be favored in each of our first 7 games.

I'll have what you're having! We are +7 against Utah who might be on their 3rd string QB and have one of the nation's best TE out. We will be dogs against UT, Kentucky and maybe USCe.

 

[oxrageous]

That ute boy has really gotten to you.

The elevation is a non story to me. Here's a list of the highest elevation stadiums in college football:

1. Wyoming (7,215)
2. Northern Arizona (6,980)
3. Air Force (6,620)
4. Southern Utah (5,796)
5. Colorado (5,360)
6. Colorado State (5,190)
7. New Mexico (5,100)
8. Montana State (4,946)
9. Northern Colorado (4,785)
10. Weber State (4,785)
11. Utah State (4,710)
12. Utah (4,657)
13. BYU (4,650)
14. Nevada (4,610)
15. Idaho State (4,568)
16. New Mexico State (3,980)
17. UTEP (3,910)
18. App State (3,252)
19. Monatana (3,222)
20. Texas Tech (3,215)

Note that none of these are considered intimidating places to play. I might worry about the elevation for the top 3, but no way am I worried about 4,600 ft.

I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

I went to several Northern Arizona games in 1986. Incredibly, both Andy Reid and former Vikings coach Brad Childress were assistants on that team.

 

[GatorTruth133]

Note that none of these are considered intimidating places to play. I might worry about the elevation for the top 3, but no way am I worried about 4,600 ft.

I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

May be, but if you do it regularly I wonder how much your body is a bit more acclimated than some who have never been up there, much less with all the pads and stuff.

I’m not saying it will 100% be a factor, but I’m not about to say a 4,000ish foot change in elevation will be a non-factor for any player.

I think the environmental factor and whether a place are intimidating are two different things.

Took me a minute about what Ute you were talking about. I didn’t read much from the guy in the game thread if that’s the reference.

 

[TN G8tr]

Utes guys have been hammering this weather/altitude to death. Last year the Utes said they would be acclimated, well.....



Well they lost that one. Who gives a shyt about the altitude. The staff will take steps to help with that IF that is a factor.

 

[Silverback Gator]

Utes guys have been hammering this weather/altitude to death. Last year the Utes said they would be acclimated, well.....



Well they lost that one. Who gives a shyt about the altitude. The staff will take steps to help with that IF that is a factor.

4000 feet is not high altitude, but could be a mild factor. If the game were in November it would be less as there is more air concentration generally in colder months. If I knew we had a solid two deep, would not matter because we would rotate. We'll see. If we happen to go up by a couple of scores, even less a factor than otherwise in a close, grind-it-out type game.

 

[soflagator]

That ute boy has really gotten to you.

The elevation is a non story to me. Here's a list of the highest elevation stadiums in college football:

1. Wyoming (7,215)
2. Northern Arizona (6,980)
3. Air Force (6,620)
4. Southern Utah (5,796)
5. Colorado (5,360)
6. Colorado State (5,190)
7. New Mexico (5,100)
8. Montana State (4,946)
9. Northern Colorado (4,785)
10. Weber State (4,785)
11. Utah State (4,710)
12. Utah (4,657)
13. BYU (4,650)
14. Nevada (4,610)
15. Idaho State (4,568)
16. New Mexico State (3,980)
17. UTEP (3,910)
18. App State (3,252)
19. Monatana (3,222)
20. Texas Tech (3,215)

Note that none of these are considered intimidating places to play. I might worry about the elevation for the top 3, but no way am I worried about 4,600 ft.

I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

Yeah, I had no idea it was just 4600. I think Howie-in-the-Hills is like 3900. This is embarrassing, @UteManX. Even more so than the Fred, Wilma, Barnie movie that’s all the rave over there right now.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

4000 feet doesn't seem like much. Does anybody know what steps they will take on the sideline to mitigate this? I would imagine O2 tanks would suffice. Just keep oxygenating on the sideline? If nothing else there's a placebo effect. Yeah?

 

[Theologator]

4000 feet doesn't seem like much. Does anybody know what steps they will take on the sideline to mitigate this? I would imagine O2 tanks would suffice. Just keep oxygenating on the sideline? If nothing else there's a placebo effect. Yeah?

Maybe increase rotations where needed. It’s not a big deal for highly conditioned athletes. Much easier to train in heat and humidity and go there than the reverse.

 

[GatorJB]

Maybe increase rotations where needed. It’s not a big deal for highly conditioned athletes. Much easier to train in heat and humidity and go there than the reverse.

Yeah, the heat and humidity, which wasn't as bad as it could have been, clearly affected some of their guys. No reason to think the same will happen to our guys this year. I remember a reporter asking Napier about this in SEC media days. He basically said he's coached there before and they'll be ready for that environment.

 

[Silverback Gator]

Maybe increase rotations where needed. It’s not a big deal for highly conditioned athletes. Much easier to train in heat and humidity and go there than the reverse.

Is oxygen allowed on the sideline?

 

[Theologator]

Is oxygen allowed on the sideline?

Yes, but its efficacy is debated. The body can only absorb so much oxygen at a time and an athlete recovers quickly anyway.

“High altitude” is more like 8,000 feet and up, which you’d get in ski and high hiking areas going up from SLC.

Hydration in that low humidity environment would seem a bigger training issue to me. In Florida we’re used to seeing and feeling our sweat. There, it evaporates quickly so you don’t realize how dry you are. I’m sure the trainers will be on them about it.

 

[aka]

I've skied the altitudes 4 or 5 thousand feet higher than that in SLC and it's definitely different up there, but I'm not overly worried about the game.

 

[Lake Gator]

Yeah, more surprising than Texas tech is UTEP at 3,900.

It's named El Paso for a reason.

 

[Lake Gator]

That ute boy has really gotten to you.

The elevation is a non story to me. Here's a list of the highest elevation stadiums in college football:

1. Wyoming (7,215)
2. Northern Arizona (6,980)
3. Air Force (6,620)
4. Southern Utah (5,796)
5. Colorado (5,360)
6. Colorado State (5,190)
7. New Mexico (5,100)
8. Montana State (4,946)
9. Northern Colorado (4,785)
10. Weber State (4,785)
11. Utah State (4,710)
12. Utah (4,657)
13. BYU (4,650)
14. Nevada (4,610)
15. Idaho State (4,568)
16. New Mexico State (3,980)
17. UTEP (3,910)
18. App State (3,252)
19. Monatana (3,222)
20. Texas Tech (3,215)

Note that none of these are considered intimidating places to play. I might worry about the elevation for the top 3, but no way am I worried about 4,600 ft.

I travel from sea level to Boulder pretty frequently where the #5 school on that list is, and I find that when I go jogging I actually perform better there due to the lack of humidity.

As a college-age youth from Connecticut, I hiked in the mountains above Silverton and Ouray, Colorado. Altitude/fatigue was a non-issue. Staying hydrated in the low humidity is another story.