@Detroitgator to be fair, your IPA comparison rings true with me. I remember all the hubbub when the craft beer, IPA craze got started and the folks touting them all either had man-buns, wore beanies and winced with each sip as they proclaimed how great the IPA was. That said, I can take the Philly Cheesesteak or leave it. Getting a sub or sandwich is as much about the lettuce, tomato, onions, oil and vinegar, etc. than just the meat, cheese, and bread and for some reason the lettuce and tomato et al just doesn’t match up. Of course, giving the Philly a second chance is now out of the question with the “homeless @ss” comparison.