Where are 5 star players?

[deuce]

Some people seem to have a need to assign blame for everything. Even when something good happens, people like Dirty are just begging for the hammer to fall so they can say, "I told you so'!


I think it has something to do with S.M.S

 

[Gatorphan]

I fear that Mac can continue to win the East with subpar recruiting. Thus keeping his job, and keeping us from our dreams for many years to come.

 

[t-gator]

I fear that Mac can continue to win the East with subpar recruiting. Thus keeping his job, and keeping us from our dreams for many years to come.

This is my biggest worry too

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Other than the WR's causing false starts the unit is coached well.

No, they're not. They don't run crisp routes, they don't run the scramble routes well if at all, you often see two WRs running to the same spot (someone is obviously wrong), they don't have good hands, and they don't fight for balls or win the fights much when they do. Frankly, the only thing they do well is block.

Danny Wuerffel threw his share of "50/50" balls. Ike and Reidel came down with those. Of course, that's really a misnomer bc CBs play that position bc they cannot catch. The receiver should win that battle most of the time.

 

[Gatorphan]

This is my biggest worry too

PJ Fleck will come and go :(

 

[t-gator]

PJ Fleck will come and go :(

Nah, he's saving himself for Florida .

 

[Double Gator Dad]

Fallacious expression = If they don't see recruiting deficits, why do they come up excusing what they don't see ??

I will try one more time and then will wave the white flag. They see the deficits but they make excuses for why they are occurring versus being honest with themselves and accepting the fact that to date Mac has not recruited well
Is there an obscure term for what I am saying ..... I think they call it denial. I find it interesting that GatorJ, the poster I quoted understood exactly what I was saying Now tell me how confusing I am and that I need a communication class or whatever

 

[t-gator]

I will try one more time and then will wave the white flag. They see the deficits but they make excuses for why they are occurring versus being honest with themselves and accepting the fact that to date Mac has not recruited well
Is there an obscure term for what I am saying ..... I think they call it denial. I find it interesting that GatorJ, the poster I quoted understood exactly what I was saying Now tell me how confusing I am and that I need a communication class or whatever

Huh?

 

[GatorStud]

I guess we can get some balls and call the radio show and ask Mac straight up why he's not getting 4 and 5 * recruits and what's he going to do about it or his plan moving forward...fan curiosity Coach... it would sure save some bandwidth or at least we'd have a definitive reason to b!tch based on the wrong answer

 

[rogdochar]

I will try one more time and then will wave the white flag. They see the deficits but they make excuses for why they are occurring versus being honest with themselves and accepting the fact that to date Mac has not recruited well
Is there an obscure term for what I am saying ..... I think they call it denial. I find it interesting that GatorJ, the poster I quoted understood exactly what I was saying Now tell me how confusing I am and that I need a communication class or whatever

When you call people out, your claims should at least be congruent. Your post did say they did not see Mac's
recruiting was substandard and so they make excuses for it. I'm just playing with you DGDad. I agree with you
(& many) that our recruiting is subpar and Mac as the CEO takes the blame. He does need to be, right now,
hunting for better coaches who are very good at recruiting. But Mac also has a game-win to work on.??

 

[BNAG8R]

No, they're not. They don't run crisp routes, they don't run the scramble routes well if at all, you often see two WRs running to the same spot (someone is obviously wrong), they don't have good hands, and they don't fight for balls or win the fights much when they do. Frankly, the only thing they do well is block.

Danny Wuerffel threw his share of "50/50" balls. Ike and Reidel came down with those. Of course, that's really a misnomer bc CBs play that position bc they cannot catch. The receiver should win that battle most of the time.

This is what I see often, and unless your QB is laser-accurate with impeccable timing, you have to want the ball more than the other guy. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see a couple offensive pass interference calls...at least it would show they want the ball.

 

[Jbossgator8]

5 star players don't ALWAYS work out. Driskel, Josh Shaw, Gary Brown, John Brantley, and James Wilson were all 5 star recruits. Trey Burton, Calloway, Zuniga, Quincy Wilson, and Pinero were all 3 star recruits so you just never know with recruiting. Its all about how the player gets coached up and performs. Ahmad Black wasn't even rated!!

 

[Swamp Donkey]

5 star players don't ALWAYS work out. Driskel, Josh Shaw, Gary Brown, John Brantley, and James Wilson were all 5 star recruits. Trey Burton, Calloway, Zuniga, Quincy Wilson, and Pinero were all 3 star recruits so you just never know with recruiting. Its all about how the player gets coached up and performs. Ahmad Black wasn't even rated!!

Neither Driskel https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/11008 nor John Brantley https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/17688 were 5 stars.

Calloway https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/5811 Quincy Wilson https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/9554 and Ahmad Black were not 3 stars. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/44921

Trey Burton? That's your success story. Nice kid, good depth. Not the kind of kid that wins championships.

Thanks for playing. It would be hard to fvkk that post up more if you were trying to be wrong.

 

[Gator Fever]

5 star players don't ALWAYS work out. Driskel, Josh Shaw, Gary Brown, John Brantley, and James Wilson were all 5 star recruits. Trey Burton, Calloway, Zuniga, Quincy Wilson, and Pinero were all 3 star recruits so you just never know with recruiting. Its all about how the player gets coached up and performs. Ahmad Black wasn't even rated!!

When was the last time a team won the SEC without a couple of highly rated recruiting classes leading up to it? I think 2010 Auburn is the only SEC team to win an SEC Championship without real good recruiting classes in the modern era of the last 25 years or so and that was probably only due to having that crazy good college QB.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

PS>> One day from now, if we "wet the bed" at Arky, then my claims don't hold water. :cool:

I see what you did there Rog.

Regarding your other comments, I agree that improvements in the on-field performance will help recruiting and victories against FSU/Bama/etc. would be big but I disagree about this being the first year of Mac's recruiting. Yes, he had limited time to recruit after being hired which is why his second class should have been better. Mac had 13 months to develop relationships and land players...same as any other new head coach at any school. Mac wasn't my first choice for head coach but I was cautiously optimistic that he would work out for us. I still think he may be good but he needs to 1) step it up in recruiting, especially with in-state recruits and 2) get better assistant coaches.

 

[Kyng]

I think facilities matter more than we think. If I'm going to spend 3-4 years at a school. Why would I wanna stay at the motel 6, when I can stay in a Hilton Suites.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

No, they're not. They don't run crisp routes, they don't run the scramble routes well if at all, you often see two WRs running to the same spot (someone is obviously wrong), they don't have good hands, and they don't fight for balls or win the fights much when they do. Frankly, the only thing they do well is block.

Danny Wuerffel threw his share of "50/50" balls. Ike and Reidel came down with those. Of course, that's really a misnomer bc CBs play that position bc they cannot catch. The receiver should win that battle most of the time.

Hate to agree with this but I agree with this and it's been something that has been in the back of my mind for a while now.

 

[Jbossgator8]

Trey Burton is actually in the NFL having success so as a 3 star player that is not something you would expect. Not laughing now huh??

 

[Jbossgator8]

Depends on which site you look on too for rankings. 247 has those players I mentioned correct stars. Different sites do different rankings

 

[Jbossgator8]

OWNED and DESTROYED just like Mac against Ark