Dan Mullen has built Florida into an offensive power, but not yet a complete program

[JDW]

The fact is without a QB run threat the zone blocking schemes we have are completely useless

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The fact is without a QB run threat the zone blocking schemes we have are completely useless

We put a fullback in and ran iso once or twice. Simple stuff like that would work, just like it did in late 06.

 

[TheDouglas78]

The fact is without a QB run threat the zone blocking schemes we have are completely useless

Denver used a zone blocking scheme with Terrell Davis and a Full Back. They seemed to do pretty well with it.

 

[oxrageous]

Denver used a zone blocking scheme with Terrell Davis and a Full Back. They seemed to do pretty well with it.

Well, HOF'ers at RB and QB certainly helps, but I see your point. One of the most dominant run games I have ever seen. They could not be stopped.

 

[JDW]

They also had a great OL that could handle the blocking and a fullback to pick up a LB or safety that was left in the hole...we literally have a finesse running scheme unless it’s the QB and it’s maddening

 

[TheDouglas78]

They also had a great OL that could handle the blocking and a fullback to pick up a LB or safety that was left in the hole...we literally have a finesse running scheme unless it’s the QB and it’s maddening

The problem isn't that zone blocking doesn't work, it's the fact we aren't coaching and getting the players to fit that scheme. If you don't solidify the lines the rest is window dressing.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The problem isnt zone blocking, the problem is option running scheme and leaving a DE unblocked,. period.

Every now and then we run something else, but it is still 80% of the runing plays and most of the screens.

Just complete square peg round hole.

 

[JDW]

The problem isnt zone blocking, the problem is option running scheme and leaving a DE unblocked,. period.

Every now and then we run something else, but it is still 80% of the runing plays and most of the screens.

Just complete square peg round hole.

He gets it

 

[Swamp Donkey]

He gets it

Yeah.... no they dont. MOST of the posters here dont recognize an option play or even know DOrky runs them.almost every run play. They only recognize Nebraska style triple option or speed option.

People keep calling it a "delay" or whatever. There is no real option to our option but the reason Trash is looking at that unblocked DE or LB is because Dan really thinks someday the guy will respect Trash's run ability.

somehow wasting plates is " keeping them up honest" when they have zero trouble defending our run with even just three defensive linemen.

Almost every team on the planet uses zone blocking. Zone blocking isnt at all our problem.

There is a reason this OL suddenly looks competent at run blocking as soon as EJ walks on the field.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

there's no point in talking about this. he didn't change the run offense all year. he certainly not going to do it in a bowl game for which he only has four practices.

the good news is this season will be over soon.

 

[TheDouglas78]

He gets it

I don't disagree we need to stop running trask, it's in effective, but a zone scheme can work w

Yeah.... no they dont. MOST of the posters here dont recognize an option play or even know DOrky runs them.almost every run play. They only recognize Nebraska style triple option or speed option.

People keep calling it a "delay" or whatever. There is no real option to our option but the reason Trash is looking at that unblocked DE or LB is because Dan really thinks someday the guy will respect Trash's run ability.

somehow wasting plates is " keeping them up honest" when they have zero trouble defending our run with even just three defensive linemen.

Almost every team on the planet uses zone blocking. Zone blocking isnt at all our problem.

There is a reason this OL suddenly looks competent at run blocking as soon as EJ walks on the field.

This is the point, zone blocking isn't the issue. We could run a pro-set with a full back and have a great running attack. We keep trying to run plus-one running plays, threating the qb. And as NFL scouts will also point out, Trask isn't athletic enough for those schemes. They should have made the switch in the offseason, similar to 06 on the off week, put in either a full back or a split back set.

 

[JDW]

I don't disagree we need to stop running trask, it's in effective, but a zone scheme can work w


This is the point, zone blocking isn't the issue. We could run a pro-set with a full back and have a great running attack. We keep trying to run plus-one running plays, threating the qb. And as NFL scouts will also point out, Trask isn't athletic enough for those schemes. They should have made the switch in the offseason, similar to 06 on the off week, put in either a full back or a split back set.

We ran a split back set in 08 with the mighty midgets quite a few times

 

[oxrageous]

This is the point, zone blocking isn't the issue. We could run a pro-set with a full back and have a great running attack.

I'm not sure Mullen knows what a fullback is. I think fullbacks went out with powdered wigs.

 

[JDW]

I'm not sure Mullen knows what a fullback is. I think fullbacks went out with powdered wigs.

We used one in 05 and a few times in 06 but as an H back mostly

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I'm not sure Mullen knows what a fullback is. I think fullbacks went out with powdered wigs.

Humorous bc instead of running an offense from the 70s, he runs an offense from the 50s.

 

[78]

The defense is at 28.6 ppg allowed headed into the bowl. We may end up north of 30. What’s the “high” water mark historically for UF?

 

[neteng]

there's no point in talking about this. he didn't change the run offense all year. he certainly not going to do it in a bowl game for which he only has four practices.

the good news is this season will be over soon.

We didnt run it all year. In the middle of the season, too lazy to go look at which games, we had a lot of play action that was very effective with the run game. Granted, it was probably more of an option than play action, but the concept of threatening the run with the RB vs Trask throwing it did open up the run game. It was so effective that the camera operators had a hard time following the ball on plays. They would follow the RB on a pass play or stay with Trask after he handed it off.

But then those plays just stopped.

 

[G8trwood]

Trask, Toney and Pitts turn UF into offensive powerhouse. Mullen begrudgingly runs fewer WR screen and QB keepers while dreaming about next year.

 

[neteng]

He is an OC who dabbles in defense. Im losing faith that he can transform to be a HC. There are some positive signs, like the idea that Johnson probably had more control over the offense this year. But if Grantham is still on this staff in a couple months then I think Mullen is a dead man walking. Well, UAA may never fire him. Sigh.