NCAA Playoff Expansion

[Swamp Donkey]

An eight-team playoff makes it a lot easier for coaches of teams other than those four perennial CFP teams to sell Blue Chip recruits on the allure of being part of the next top team.

So fuchsing stupid. Players dont go to teams because they want to make an appearance innthe playoffs and get skullfuchsed by Bammer potentially for the third time in one year (or Crackunbus State or Clemson) they go to Bammer because they want to win a trophy.

Allowing the fourth best team in the SEC West in the playiff doesnt change anything in recruiting.

The neverending excuses for why we suck are hilarious.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Why do players go to Bama (1st Round Picks from Alabama since '09):

2009 – Andre Smith (No. 6, Cincinnati)

2010 – Rolando McClain (No. 8, Oakland), Kareem Jackson (No. 20, Houston)

2011 – Marcell Dareus (No. 3, Buffalo), Julio Jones (No. 6, Atlanta), James Carpenter (No. 25, Seattle), Mark Ingram (No. 28, New Orleans)

2012 – Trent Richardson (No. 3, Cleveland), Mark Barron (No. 7, Tampa Bay), Dre Kirkpatrick (No. 17, Cincinnati), Dont’a Hightower (No. 25, New England)

2013 – Dee Milliner (No. 9, New York Jets), Chance Warmack (No. 10, Tennessee), D.J. Fluker (No. 11, San Diego)

2014 – C.J. Mosley (No. 17, Baltimore), Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (No. 21, Green Bay)

2015 – Amari Cooper (No. 4, Oakland)

2016 – Ryan Kelly (No. 18, Indianapolis)

2017 – Marlon Humphrey (No. 16, Baltimore), Jonathan Allen (No. 17, Washington), O.J. Howard (No. 19, Tampa Bay), Reuben Foster (No. 31, San Francisco)

2018 – Minkah Fitzpatrick (No. 11, Miami), Da’Ron Payne (No. 13, Washington), Rashaan Evans (No. 22, Tennessee), Calvin Ridley (No. 26, Atlanta)

2019 – Quinnen Williams (No. 3, New York Jets), Jonah Williams (No. 11, Cincinnati), Josh Jacobs (Oakland, No. 24)

2020 – Tua Tagovailoa (No. 5, Miami Dolphins), Jedrick Wills Jr. (No.10 Cleveland Browns), Henry Ruggs III (No. 12, Las Vegas Raiders), Jerry Jeudy (No. 15, Denver Broncos)

2021 – Jaylen Waddle (No. 6, Miami Dolphins), Patrick Surtain II, (No.9 Denver Broncos), DeVonta Smith (No. 10, Philadelphia Eagles), Mac Jones, (No. 15, New England Patriots), Alex Leatherwood, (No. 17, Las Vegas Raiders), Najee Harris, (No. 24, Pittsburgh Steelers)

 

[Theologator]

So fuchsing stupid. Players dont go to teams because they want to make an appearance innthe playoffs and get skullfuchsed by Bammer potentially for the third time in one year (or Crackunbus State or Clemson) they go to Bammer because they want to win a trophy.

Allowing the fourth best team in the SEC West in the playiff doesnt change anything in recruiting.

The neverending excuses for why we suck are hilarious.

So how does one crack into the perennial top 4-5? Bama, OSU and OU are historic powers, but Clemson did it by getting the right guy and building that culture that attracts key players, breeding success and excellence in everything from facilities to wins.

So who is that next guy? There are only 2-3 of them out there and it’s awfully hard to predict. Saying “not him” doesn’t narrow the field much.

 

[TheDouglas78]

So how does one crack into the perennial top 4-5? Bama, OSU and OU are historic powers, but Clemson did it by getting the right guy and building that culture that attracts key players, breeding success and excellence in everything from facilities to wins.

So who is that next guy? There are only 2-3 of them out there and it’s awfully hard to predict. Saying “not him” doesn’t narrow the field much.

There is only a hand full of truly elite culture changers, I fully agree. That is why wasting time on someone who all evidence points to them not being one, is an opportunity cost that is extremely high. Especially when you are a program with top 5-10 in resources (money, fanbase, talent base, etc....).

We have been fortunate in the last 30 year to have two truly elite culture changers at Head Coach. The teams that have the opportunity to get those types of talent at Head Coach is limited to only about 8 to 10 teams, which means you have to hit and if you miss you don't keep that miss for long. We have all seen where one of those teams settle on mediocrity (ie Ohio State with John Cooper). We have also seen teams chasing for excellence Alabama running through coaches from the mid 90s until Saban, USC post Pete Carroll, Texas running through coaches since Mack Brown, but at least they can tell their fanbases they are continuing to strive for excellence. Can the any of us say right now, that with what the last decade has shown us, if the UF athletic department striving for excellence?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

So who is that next guy? There are only 2-3 of them out there and it’s awfully hard to predict. Saying “not him” doesn’t narrow the field much.

Crackumbus hired a dude off the staff-- and we said who?--not even the OC if I recall correctly.

So did Clempson.

Hiring a known loser a year after he lost at home to South Alabama will never be the formula.

 

[Homer J]

The what if scenario - Florida gets in, in all of the Mullen years:

College Football Playoff Expansion Proposal To 12? What Would Have Happened?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The what if scenario - Florida gets in, in all of the Mullen years:

College Football Playoff Expansion Proposal To 12? What Would Have Happened?

Wow, that is so fuchsing exciting. We would have been skullfuchsed by Oklohoma.... but in the playoffs this time.

The week before Oklahoma got skullfuchsed by Clemson.

That is so freakin exciting. Wow. Gamechanger. Im sure we wont suck nearly as much in late December as we do in October and November.

Bammer vs Coastal Carolina. YUUUUUGE.

Indiana and Iowa State FINALLY get their well-deserved shot at the NC!

Youve done it. Im sold now.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

An eight-team playoff makes it a lot easier for coaches of teams other than those four perennial CFP teams to sell Blue Chip recruits on the allure of being part of the next top team.

It cracks me up every time he spouts this lunacy.

 

[lagator]

So how does one crack into the perennial top 4-5? Bama, OSU and OU are historic powers, but Clemson did it by getting the right guy and building that culture that attracts key players, breeding success and excellence in everything from facilities to wins.

So who is that next guy? There are only 2-3 of them out there and it’s awfully hard to predict. Saying “not him” doesn’t narrow the field much.

Or more concisely, it takes money to make money. Surprisingly, being a slumlord who upgrades facilities less than half as often as your competition while hiring and firing a bunch of numbnuts as your head coaches, so that you are always paying top dollar with buyouts and salaries at the same time, doesn't lead to championships. Who knew?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Who knew?

 

[Homer J]

Wow, that is so fuchsing exciting. We would have been skullfuchsed by Oklohoma.... but in the playoffs this time.

I'm sure if we made it to the playoffs, CDM would not have given the team the week off before the game and everyone would have played.

 

[TheDouglas78]

I'm sure if we made it to the playoffs, CDM would not have given the team the week off before the game and everyone would have played.

You mean like when we played LSU this past season with a playoff spot on the line....

 

[GatorJB]

The only change the current playoff system needs is to use the BCS computers to help choose the top 4 teams. The computers wouldn't be the only factor, but in hindsight those computers did a better job than most will admit.

The fewer playoff teams, the better, but if they are going to expand, I would rather they stuck with 6 teams: 5 power five champs plus one at large; 1 and 2 have a bye. In my opinion, an 8-team is excessive and 12-team is just stupid.

Someone may have suggested that already, but I only read the first and last pages of this thread.

 

[chferg]

The only change the current playoff system needs is to use the BCS computers to help choose the top 4 teams. The computers wouldn't be the only factor, but in hindsight those computers did a better job than most will admit.

The fewer playoff teams, the better, but if they are going to expand, I would rather they stuck with 6 teams: 5 power five champs plus one at large; 1 and 2 have a bye. In my opinion, an 8-team is excessive and 12-team is just stupid.

Someone may have suggested that already, but I only read the first and last pages of this thread.

I've been in favor of 8 for awhile now but youre right that 12 is completely asinine

 

[Swamp Donkey]

You mean like when we played LSU this past season with a playoff spot on the line....

dayummmm

that was a Dominique Wilkins level dunk.

 

[G. Gordon Gator]

So fuchsing stupid. Players dont go to teams because they want to make an appearance innthe playoffs and get skullfuchsed by Bammer potentially for the third time in one year (or Crackunbus State or Clemson) they go to Bammer because they want to win a trophy.

Allowing the fourth best team in the SEC West in the playiff doesnt change anything in recruiting.

The neverending excuses for why we suck are hilarious.

I know you really do believe those are high school boys you chat with privately online, and that's how you know how they think, but the truth is, you're getting catfished by guys who (believe it or not) are even older and fatter than you.

Elite players join different teams for different reasons, obviously. Even after the inevitable playoff expansion, some will still stick with the current reigning leaders. Others will respond to the appeal of joining an upstart that has a chance to advance through all the rounds and take on the Final Boss. Expanding the playoffs expands the number of teams with the potential to be that #fireteam that's trending and getting hype on social media.

"The neverending excuses for why we suck are hilarious." :rolleyes:

No, what's hilarious is that comment. Or let's just say humorous. Your routine is too tired for hilarity.

You get viscerally angry about expanding the playoffs for the same reason that the progress on the new football facility is upsetting to you. Anything that might in any way increase the likelihood of Dan Mullen winning a championship is seen by you as a personal affront. It's an intolerable threat to your whole identity as a human being, which is all wrapped up in complaining about Mullinz on this website. You literally had to quit posting here when the Gators were on a hot streak a few years ago, remember that? Then triumphantly returned when we stumbled. IOW you're a weird dude whose opinions don't count for anything. It's enjoyable to entertain lurkers by repeatedly pointing that out though.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Your consistency is admirable if nothing else.

First you proclaim that there's no possible way for #30 academic school to be a national champion caliber football team, although we could win through the 90s as #34.

But then you pull the "maybe we can recruit better" because recruits would rather lose a playoff game than lose a bowl game

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

This idea absolutely sucks! Second worst CFB idea ever, ranking behind the idea to go to a 4 team playoff from the BCS system. Congrats to those in charge...you've destroyed the game of college football.

 

[TheDouglas78]

The only change the current playoff system needs is to use the BCS computers to help choose the top 4 teams. The computers wouldn't be the only factor, but in hindsight those computers did a better job than most will admit.

Been saying this for a while, BCS rankings were so much better it's ridiculous.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

Long-term, I think that actually benefits UF: it'll ensure we pick up more recruits and compensate for Mullen's recruiting and coaching deficiencies.

We likely win 2 of those 3 matchups; and advancing in the playoffs is key to selling the dream to recruits that *they* are going to be the difference-maker next season. Even a dumbazz, average recruiter can sell that message.

If only we had a few of those on our staff.