***OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: UF vs USF***

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Mullen wouldn't know buzz if a blowfly flew up his ass.

Not really defending him, but he seemed to when he arrived. The plane chomp, the jump pass in week one for the fans, the Lsu game. The guy flew to every commit, including Corral in Cali, within the first few days. Zeroed in on landing Jones over the noles, etc.

He was going to get paid handsomely regardless, so it’s not that money is locked in. I honestly don’t know what happened to the guy. I feel like the UAA just sucks the life out of people.

But seriously, where did this guy go?

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Not really defending him, but he seemed to when he arrived. The plane chomp, the jump pass in week one for the fans, the Lsu game. The guy flew to every commit, including Corral in Cali, within the first few days. Zeroed in on landing Jones over the noles, etc.

He was going to get paid handsomely regardless, so it’s not that money is locked in. I honestly don’t know what happened to the guy. I feel like the UAA just sucks the life out of people.

But seriously, where did this guy go?

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Yeah, he’s checked out.
 

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Yeah, he’s checked out.

One thing I’ve said before is regardless of how you feel about Mullen, the idea of a fourth coach in a row being complete burned out, and almost begging for an out after just a few years here, isn’t a good look for UF.

How many times are we going to simply scrape off a scab and pretend the whole body isn’t infected?
 

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One thing I’ve said before is regardless of how you feel about Mullen, the idea of a fourth coach in a row being complete burned out, and almost begging for an out after just a few years here, isn’t a good look for UF.

How many times are we going to simply scrape off a scab and pretend the whole body isn’t infected?
I just hope we can land a decent coach that’s a solid recruiter once the football facility is complete.
 

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He was going to get paid handsomely regardless, so it’s not that money is locked in. I honestly don’t know what happened to the guy. I feel like the UAA just sucks the life out of people.

But seriously, where did this guy go?
He realized he is the shyt recruiting, tired ass option offense, 4-5 loss Cowbell guy his resume said he was.
 

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I just hope we can land a decent coach that’s a solid recruiter once the football facility is complete.
Need it all. We need a good all in one, good at least dorms (UAA tries not to even show pics of it, so at least they know); a great coaching staff most of whom can both recruit and coach; a LARGE support staff, etc.

Cowbell Fooley Jr seem like that guy? Is he going to start fixing all that ON MUNDEEEEE?

We all know how this ends. It ends like the Cincinnati Reds talking about how they used to dominate baseball in the 70s and had the second largest revenue until their management thought it was better to be cheapasses. Now they couldnt climb out even if they wanted to because they destroyed their own revenue, and the fanbase who grew up in the last few decades has never even seen a championship.
 

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He realized he is the shyt recruiting, tired ass option offense, 4-5 loss Cowbell guy his resume said he was.

Yeah we can disagree but I think it goes way deeper. We just can’t keep having coaches completely burn out here. That’s my point. If you’re an agent of one of those guys you and MJM are taking about, do you let you client take this job with the same no hesitancy as 10-15 years ago, or is there a significant pause?
 

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Burn out? He's exactly the same as he was at cowbell. Little excitement and uptick the first year or two, then a precipitous decline when the newness and novelty wears off and kids realize there's nothing special there. He hasn't burned out, he's exactly the guy we knew he'd be when hired.
 

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Yeah we can disagree but I think it goes way deeper. We just can’t keep having coaches completely burn out here. That’s my point. If you’re an agent of one of those guys you and MJM are taking about, do you let you client take this job with the same no hesitancy as 10-15 years ago, or is there a significant pause?

I think the problem starts at the top, whether it be a Prez who does not give a shyt or an incompetent pair of AD's. But do these guys burn out or does it just appear that way b/c they are simply piss poor coaches who are not good enough to get the job done? We all know about our facilities, Section 8 housing, shag carpet and drop ceilings. But a real coach would be able to get enough done to energize the base, and get things on the right track. There is no denying the apathy that has surrounded the program for over a decade, even though the coaches change, other things have not.. Even though those incompetent coaches said we need this that and the other, the truth is with these same coaches, give them all those things and we would still be looking up at the same teams ahead of us b/c those coaches can't get it done.
 

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I think the problem starts at the top, whether it be a Prez who does not give a shyt or an incompetent pair of AD's. But do these guys burn out or does it just appear that way b/c they are simply piss poor coaches who are not good enough to get the job done? We all know about our facilities, Section 8 housing, shag carpet and drop ceilings. But a real coach would be able to get enough done to energize the base, and get things on the right track. There is no denying the apathy that has surrounded the program for over a decade, even though the coaches change, other things have not.. Even though those incompetent coaches said we need this that and the other, the truth is with these same coaches, give them all those things and we would still be looking up at the same teams ahead of us b/c those coaches can't get it done.

Not totally disagreeing, but Zook wasn’t good enough to get it done but was nearly begging for the chance to keep trying. Urban clearly was good enough but bowed out, twice. We can agree on guys like WM, JM and even likely DM not being good enough. But the difference in terms of UF and its view of football is glaring g. So many big programs today have to force their guys out. At this point, we
have them practically begging for a release. That’s a serious, very real problem.
 

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Not totally disagreeing, but Zook wasn’t good enough to get it done but was nearly begging for the chance to keep trying. Urban clearly was good enough but bowed out, twice. We can agree on guys like WM, JM and even likely DM not being good enough. But the difference in terms of UF and its view of football is glaring g. So many big programs today have to force their guys out. At this point, we
have them practically begging for a release. That’s a serious, very real problem.


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Burn out? He's exactly the same as he was at cowbell. Little excitement and uptick the first year or two, then a precipitous decline when the newness and novelty wears off and kids realize there's nothing special there. He hasn't burned out, he's exactly the guy we knew he'd be when hired.

He peaked at Msu in year 6.

Again I think some of you guys are mistaking this is some sort of blind support. It’s not. But Zook was exactly what we had to know he’d be when we hired him. McElwain too. Their stories, however, couldn’t be more opposite. There’s a difference between a guy just failing but wanting to be here and a guy that’s almost happy to be gone, to the point of creating fictitious villains in his head.
 

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Yeah we can disagree but I think it goes way deeper. We just can’t keep having coaches completely burn out here. That’s my point. If you’re an agent of one of those guys you and MJM are taking about, do you let you client take this job with the same no hesitancy as 10-15 years ago, or is there a significant pause?
I don't think it's burn out with mullen. I think it's more of an arrogant "I have arrived " attitude. He feels he can win with his coaches and players he recruites . He just got a pretty big raise for a pretty underwhelming finish to last year. What incentive does he have to put anymore effort in?
 

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Yeah we can disagree but I think it goes way deeper. We just can’t keep having coaches completely burn out here. That’s my point. If you’re an agent of one of those guys you and MJM are taking about, do you let you client take this job with the same no hesitancy as 10-15 years ago, or is there a significant pause?

...or we just hired some duds.
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One thing I’ve said before is regardless of how you feel about Mullen, the idea of a fourth coach in a row being complete burned out, and almost begging for an out after just a few years here, isn’t a good look for UF.

How many times are we going to simply scrape off a scab and pretend the whole body isn’t infected?

You get a young guy that is passionate about UF and hope for the best. The burnout maybe wouldn't happen for a guy that has played here and knows the expectations and just loves to be here.
 

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He peaked at Msu in year 6.

Again I think some of you guys are mistaking this is some sort of blind support. It’s not. But Zook was exactly what we had to know he’d be when we hired him. McElwain too. Their stories, however, couldn’t be more opposite. There’s a difference between a guy just failing but wanting to be here and a guy that’s almost happy to be gone, to the point of creating fictitious villains in his head.
Maybe if we hired coaches that actually did great jobs and recruited powerhouse teams that could compete they wouldn't want to run and hide by year 3. The last 3 guys have done a poor job actually building the program, despite all their retarded promises when they got hired. Those chickens eventually come home to roost, and they find themselves with the garbage they put together. It's at that point they want to take their stolen millions and GTFO. It makes me sick.

Someone like Butters should have not only received no buyout, the university should have sued to get back at least 90% of his salary that the lazy idiot stole while on the clock. Get a judgement and take his house if you have to. Make him blow what little money he has left on lawyers. Don't stop until the turd is in rags on the street begging people for change at gas stations. Enough is enough with coddling and overpaying bad coaches. Make them pay - literally.

In short, hire the right guy for once and he may want to stick around. EVERY SINGLE PERSON, from jboss right up the Stricklin, KNOWS that Mullen isn't a long term answer here and it's only a matter of time before he's gone. DO IT NOW, RIGHT NOW WHILE I'M WRITING THIS POST, and stop wasting time. See if Spurrier will finish out the season.

I'm tired of seeing filthy rich bad coaches like Mullen. I want them broke, so broke they are renting in trailer parks and eating Ramen Noodles. And I want it all documented on video for our amusement and entertainment. I want to see a clip of a scruffy, bed-headed, puffy-eyed Mullen shuffling out of his trailer in his filthy slippers to steal his neighbors newspaper. I want to see it on the big screen at The Swamp during a game so everyone can point and laugh. These coaches have stolen from the fans for too long. They are thieves.
 

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Somebody believed Mullen might create the magic of The Tebow-Harvin years.They thought it was all MSU's fault that he underachieved. That all was pretty stupid.
 
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Somebody believed Mullen might create the magic of The Tebow-Harvin years.They thought it was all MSU's fault. That all was pretty stupid.
If your offense doesnt work unless you have Harvins and Tebow then you suck. Bc even when one of those gamechangers come a long, they sign with Creyers or Sabans of the world, not a Mullinz.
 

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