- Jun 5, 2014
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I hired a new moderator to clean all of this up. 2023 is going to be different in this regard.
“What the hell’s going on out here?”
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- Jun 12, 2014
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Gator sports are pretty much in the toilet now . When we had a losing season under Muschamp there was always at least Billy D and hoops to look forward to . Now we are bottom feeders in both sports and watching our football team as well as our basketball team is about as pleasant as a root canal. It’s frustrating . In fact if I had a choice between the two I may very well opt for the root canal. Yet here we are urinating in the wind .
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Exactly. I thought it was business as usual around here, we were well on our way to a knife fight at the statues outside BHG
- Jun 5, 2014
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I understand the frustration, but if something causes me nothing but angst, I walk away, at least for a while. Sports are supposed to be fun. If they aren't fun, why keep doing it?
I don't enjoy losing but I'm enjoying this rebuild. We've sucked for years, I'm not freaking out over sucking for a while more while the entire thing gets upended. At least we're trying something new this time. It's nice to see high school players at least looking at UF again.
- Jun 12, 2014
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Friend, thanks for your reply and I believe you make very good points in your encapsulation. Personally, I never felt there was going to be a quick turn around, though I thought the win total might have been a couple more. There was too much rot in my opinion that had to be jettisoned, starting with players on the roster who either weren’t SEC caliber or were unwilling to change their way of doing things that were obviously acceptable with past staffs that weren’t winning ways.
Again, my plea is not for any type of agreement to a single mindset other than to remember we all are pulling for the Orange and Blue. I don’t mind telling you that I wasn’t exactly crazy about the last two hires in particular. Specifically, my thoughts about Mullen were that “we could have done worse!” By the end, I was ready for both to go, but they had a chance to make a good mark. I think Billy’s got to have that chance as well. Love him or hate him, you’ve got to admit that he’s done exponentially better with building a needed roster than McElwain and Mullen. That’s just the first step, but an extremely important one. This is where I think the overt difference of opinion has become really ridiculous, excessive, and toxic. We should be happy that the work Billy and staff is doing has begun paying off and at least recognize the difference.
Whether Billy can or can’t coach in the SEC is certainly debatable. But the fact is that he’s here and deserves the opportunity regardless of whether you, me, or everybody else feels he does or doesn’t deserve the job. He will stay or leave by what happens on the schedule and I think he’s got a chance. I’ve heard it said on here during this spell we are in that “what should be done eventually, should be done immediately.” First of all, it’s way too soon to make that determination despite what your perceived level of CFB acumen is and second, think about who you’re quoting! As long as we’re talking about cleaning up the rot, let’s not limit it to beneath administrative levels.
Anyhow, I really hope we can experience a little more civility when discussing our differences of opinion. It ought to be a goal moving forward imo.
- Jun 12, 2014
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I am not being my usual smart ass self….. But is this part the actual issue?
Sadly, I dont think it’s just on here. Over the past 3 years, it seems the world is more divided than ever with everyone ready to kill each other.
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I believe you answered your own question!
I don’t think there’s any doubt that what’s going on in the country (division), at least the mindset, has found a way into a subject that should be fun and vicarious. Sort of like the point that @stephenPE made in an earlier post.
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- Jun 12, 2014
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Nah, that shti’s only good when you’re high on peyote and still hoping to make it with that chick with flowers in her hair that read poetry a little earlier.
Metaphorically speaking, but in a similar direction, maybe we could embrace and sing “We Are The Boys?”
Just saying…
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I'm confused. You keep saying 'we' as if fans and GC posters had anything to do with what the AD has done or is doing. 'We' are certainly free to express our extreme discontent but using the 'we' pronoun referring to the AD failures shows a fatal misunderstanding of the circumstances. Maybe you are overestimating your (our) role in the decision making process. Having a conniption fit will only raise your blood pressure and increase the likelihood of having a stroke. We really need everybody to stick together through the trials.
'WE ARE THE BOYS'
- Jun 10, 2014
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What does CONSTANT complaining accomplish? Does it make the situation better or worse?
- Aug 11, 2015
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I started “chatting” online on the UF VAX system in 1986-87, green type on a black screen. Even then, when you either knew or could fairly easily discover the real person behind the on-screen handle, I noticed how easily people would jump to extremes and realized board personas are something less than 2D representations.
Think of it like traffic. Ever get furious at the car that slows to a crawl in front of you before turning? You look in anger as you whip around them and see it’s a 90+ year old woman who’s just trying to make sure she’s turning into the right place. She could be your grandmother or mother, which may mean that @Slug is about to claim he slept with her last night. Or it could be a teenager on his first solo drive. Or maybe his car is breaking down. Or maybe he’s just an idiot. But unless you’re nuts you wouldn’t attack someone even if they made a pretty bad mistake.
Behind these avatars are real people with real stuff going on in their lives. Remember that.
The banter is fine, usually funny. (On my first day Donk called me a fu**tard. It was a test. I laughed and rolled with it.) Don’t take it too seriously and don’t overreact.
I’ve made several connections on GC privately that have been very important. And I’ve really appreciated the concern I’ve gotten from a number of you regarding my wife’s lupus.
Think of it like traffic. Ever get furious at the car that slows to a crawl in front of you before turning? You look in anger as you whip around them and see it’s a 90+ year old woman who’s just trying to make sure she’s turning into the right place. She could be your grandmother or mother, which may mean that @Slug is about to claim he slept with her last night. Or it could be a teenager on his first solo drive. Or maybe his car is breaking down. Or maybe he’s just an idiot. But unless you’re nuts you wouldn’t attack someone even if they made a pretty bad mistake.
Behind these avatars are real people with real stuff going on in their lives. Remember that.
The banter is fine, usually funny. (On my first day Donk called me a fu**tard. It was a test. I laughed and rolled with it.) Don’t take it too seriously and don’t overreact.
I’ve made several connections on GC privately that have been very important. And I’ve really appreciated the concern I’ve gotten from a number of you regarding my wife’s lupus.
- Jun 11, 2014
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I can't speak as eloquently as some of y'all, but I can tell a difference in how the football program is being run. I don't know if these differences will mean winning big in the long run, but it's definitely different. Florida highschool coaches are happy to have UF coaches on campus to check out their kids again. IMG kids are choosing UF now. We didn't load up on a bunch of low 3* projects just to fill roster spots. Our overall class rating has improved vastly (2 whole points!). Are we getting the elite top 50 types, no dammit, and it sucks, but things are improving. If you look along the Dline for instance you can see there's a very obvious plan in place to fix some of the issues we've been seeing. Dline depth has been so bad poor Gervon Dexter played like 2x the snaps as most SEC Dlinemen do. BN knew this had to be fixed and he's put great emphasis on fixing it. QB is another good talking point here. With AR not really turning into what many of us thought he might + his quick exit to the NFL, kiddy porn issues with the back-up, and EJ light (Miller) now as our only roster QB with any game experience at all (that only being 1 bowl game), BN went out and got two, yes TWO 5* QBs committed to us for the next couple of cycles. I know 2024 signing day is still a long way off, but holy cow how can anyone complain about how that class is looking so far? Ok, and on field wasn't special I'll admit. Coaching in the middle 8 minutes and time-out management was suspect at best so I'll agree it does appear BN could probably use some help with play calling to lighten his overall load. Could help, but will he do it? I dunno, and neither do any of you. Drowning my sorrows in as much alcohol as I can afford just isn't all that appealing to me so I chose to be patient and see what happens.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years being a Gator fan, it's if the HC doesn't get the job done within 3-4 years, he'll be tossed out on his @ss and we'll go out and get another one and see if he can get the job done. Personally I much prefer to hope BN figures the on-field stuff out and keeps improving the recruiting until we can compete with the upper echelon again, rather than hoping he fails, or expecting him to fail and spending the next 2-3 years wallowing in misery.
Go Gators!
If there's one thing I've learned over the years being a Gator fan, it's if the HC doesn't get the job done within 3-4 years, he'll be tossed out on his @ss and we'll go out and get another one and see if he can get the job done. Personally I much prefer to hope BN figures the on-field stuff out and keeps improving the recruiting until we can compete with the upper echelon again, rather than hoping he fails, or expecting him to fail and spending the next 2-3 years wallowing in misery.
Go Gators!
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BTW I joined Swamp24/7 last night to get Paramount+ on sale. (We want to watch 1883 & 1923.) I perused their boards (which are very inferior to this group) and saw a long post and thread dealing with these exact issues.
Every board has them. GC can curb it while being more open and honest than most.
Every board has them. GC can curb it while being more open and honest than most.
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The angst of last 3 years has certainly bled into GC. That is because we have ALLOWED it. We should make a conscious effort to adjust back to normal rather than accept the "new normal" (which is a common approach to encourage wide acceptance of what should not be tolerated).
I enjoy the different views, especially when we can poke fun at each other and laugh at ourselves. But the venom and the broken-record negativity should not be nearly as prevalent as it has become here. Donkey left, but apparently nature abhors a vacuum.
We can either let our current situation at UF (and the clown world we live in) control us or we can make an honest effort to control ourselves.
Let's give CBN more time to recruit, look for the positive signs of growth, quit thinking we know exactly what's going on inside the offices and lockerrooms and have fun wherever possible (that last one is the most difficult right now).
IAKOW!!!
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