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So he's going to Miami then?There's ZERO chance he is let back on the team (which they would consider bad optics), so this debate is pointless.
So he's going to Miami then?There's ZERO chance he is let back on the team (which they would consider bad optics), so this debate is pointless.
There's ZERO chance he is let back on the team (which they would consider bad optics), so this debate is pointless.
Realistically, it's probably a Napier decision. Would rather not even consider having to answer those questions, and is moving on, looking forward to when Lagway shows up.Why exactly? If there’s no evidence supporting claims, why would anyone’s life be completely ruined with no chance of recovery? Also, if they’ve allowed him to stay in rolled in school and have now lifted his campus band, that obviously means they feel he’s innocent. This is an a DUI or similar type offense where they can sort of modify the charges due to status or legal help. This is a serious offense that puts people away every day. If they had any evidence remotely close to what they initially stated, he’d be going to prison. Some of the first statements were 40+ years he could be facing. Now, essentially nothing? Yeah, that’s not a case that should destroy his life.
I’ve never claimed otherwise.Yea but to be fair, it's because you were so bad at it
Back in the day when I was a Public Defender, I loved BSing with my clients about what prison is really like. Captain Obvious here: don’t go to Prison, it REALLY sucks.Lastly, I find it interesting that Kitna pleaded no contest and yet claims he committed no crime. I would have thought an innocent man would continue to plead not guilty.
Indeed.Back in the day when I was a Public Defender, I loved BSing with my clients about what prison is really like. Captain Obvious here: don’t go to Prison, it REALLY sucks.
I was asking one dude if child molesters have it as bad in prison as we hear. He said it’s worse than you think. If a gang member is in a room with a child molester, they MUST jump him. If the gang menber doesn’t try, then the gang will jump that gangbanger. Literally, kill or be killed.
The guards are in on it to: they’ll open doors that shouldn’t be opened and mess with them too: waking them up, messing with food, etc.
As the son of an NFL QB ($$$$$) in prison for kiddie porn, Kitna would be dog food. I’d take that plea also.
I know that I wouldn’t put the risk of going to prison, where I would be preyed upon, in the hands of 6 people who weren’t smart enough to get out of jury duty.Indeed.
So you saw the prosecution’s evidence and figured you’d lose if you were defending Kitna?
Kitna going to court is a reverse lottery. Win by not playing. Easy, easy choice.I have serious doubts about his statement. If it's as cut and dry and nothing criminal about any of it, he would have either gone to trial or state would have dropped all charges. He took a plea deal, which means he preferred to get probation then try his luck in court.
Sofla, this is the school that banned a traditional fight song because of a supposed negative perception from 150 years ago that no one knew about. The guys at the top are clowns.Why exactly? If there’s no evidence supporting claims, why would anyone’s life be completely ruined with no chance of recovery? Also, if they’ve allowed him to stay in rolled in school and have now lifted his campus band, that obviously means they feel he’s innocent. This is an a DUI or similar type offense where they can sort of modify the charges due to status or legal help. This is a serious offense that puts people away every day. If they had any evidence remotely close to what they initially stated, he’d be going to prison. Some of the first statements were 40+ years he could be facing. Now, essentially nothing? Yeah, that’s not a case that should destroy his life.
Back in the day when I was a Public Defender, I loved BSing with my clients about what prison is really like. Captain Obvious here: don’t go to Prison, it REALLY sucks.
I was asking one dude if child molesters have it as bad in prison as we hear. He said it’s worse than you think. If a gang member is in a room with a child molester, they MUST jump him. If the gang menber doesn’t try, then the gang will jump that gangbanger. Literally, kill or be killed.
The guards are in on it to: they’ll open doors that shouldn’t be opened and mess with them too: waking them up, messing with food, etc.
As the son of an NFL QB ($$$$$) in prison for kiddie porn, Kitna would be dog food. I’d take that plea also.
In theory, prosecutors try to get pleas that fit the severity of the crime. If Kitna’s being honest, and it was just 1 photo of a girl who could pass for 18, but was actually a little younger, the prosecutor prolly didn’t want a pound of flesh.But if you were a state attorney, would you grant a plea of 6 months probation if you truly had a case? There’s risk for him going to trial. What exactly would be the prosecution’s?
In theory, prosecutors try to get pleas that fit the severity of the crime. If Kitna’s being honest, and it was just 1 photo of a girl who could pass for 18, but was actually a little younger, the prosecutor prolly didn’t want a pound of flesh.
To them, this deal was probably a fair one.
You're both right... and when you can afford good, expensive lawyers (and they could), and they tell you, "You can do whatever you want, we'll gladly take your money, but you SHOULD take this plea", ya do it.The Kitna’s could afford it.
He'll probably wind up accompanying Bloomingdale's new piano player.Why exactly? If there’s no evidence supporting claims, why would anyone’s life be completely ruined with no chance of recovery? Also, if they’ve allowed him to stay enrolled in school and have now lifted his campus band, that obviously means they feel he’s innocent. This isn’t a DUI or similar type offense where they can sort of modify the charges due to status or legal help. This is a serious offense that puts people away every day. If they had any evidence remotely close to what they initially stated, he’d be going to prison. Some of the first statements were 40+ years he could be facing. Now, essentially nothing? Yeah, that’s not a case that should destroy his life.
He'll probably wind up accompanying Bloomingdale's new piano player.
In Bloomingdale's new two piece band?My guess is he starts against Utah.
In Bloomingdale's new two piece band?
No doubt, but what does that tell you about Kitna’s innocence or guilt? My suspicion is he got a sweetheart deal; the why could be for a variety of reasons.You're both right... and when you can afford good, expensive lawyers (and they could), and they tell you, "You can do whatever you want, we'll gladly take your money, but you SHOULD take this plea", ya do it.