MUST READ: Part 1: Mullen's destructive final years; Part 2: Billy Napier's rebuild

[GatorJ]

This article is crazy.

I’ll remove any political commentary. There’s a small part on marching for BLM. But it’s small and really has no bearing on the article.

Culture Shock, Part I: inside the Florida Gators' implosion under Dan Mullen | In All Kinds of Weather

The Florida Gators seemed to be in good hands under Mullen- until they weren't. And the downward spiral was worse than many may have thought.

inallkindsofweather.com

 

[revgator]

Read it earlier, quite a tale. It's a lesson on what NOT to do

 

[chferg]

Sounds exactly like what we thought was happening

 

[maheo30]

How I feel after reading that article...

 

[CGgater]

Read a few paragraphs, but not sure i can finish... Definitely not surprised tard g is one of the biggest reasons for the implosion. What a piece of human waste.

 

[maheo30]

From the article...

In fact, two different players explained to me that they’d rely more on group chats with teammates to prepare for opponents, and occasionally their position coaches, than with Grantham in the film room. “It was just yes sir, no sir, OK, I understand,” one of them said of film room sessions with Grantham. “No point saying anything else or asking questions. He was too good for us. He’d made that clear.”

This explains so much.

 

[oxrageous]

Quite amazing that the stuff we were observing during that time turned out to be true. Mullen hired his friends and refused to override them. He never acted like he was actually in charge of the program. I honestly have no idea how he survived coaching Mississippi State as long as he did. He's a coordinator, not even close to being a head coach.

 

[oxrageous]

Reading these articles a couple of years after the fact is so damn depressing. I remember reading one about Butters that was just as horrifying as this one in a few different ways. Before that, the Chimp melted down in his own way.

My point is, UF managed to hire THREE BLITHERING IDIOTS in a row, it's incredible. What's even more incredible is that Jeremy Foley was not only not run out of town on a rail like he should have been, they've allowed him to hang around and named an entire wing of the new facilities after him. Jesus wept.

What Gator fans have gone through since Tebow left should qualify us for PTSD disability payments from the government. We've been forced to eat crap and told it's ice cream. What a sh!t show.

 

[gatorev12]

Wow...just wow.

Normally, we say "fuchs Dan Mullen" as a lighthearted way of venting; but after reading that, the phrase should henceforth be "fuchs Dan Mullen, may he burn in hell."

Seriously.

I think it was tgator who took umbrage that I say Dullen and Muschump are tied in my legion of hatred and he disagreed...but seriously, I can't see any Gator fan reading that and ever thinking otherwise. It confirms everything we've long suspected to be true and heard whispers of.

Also, fuchs that Bama azzclown Feinbaum for his comments last week that FL fans are being "patient with Napier when we weren't being patient with Mullen a year after he took us to the SEC Championship." He's too experienced a football journalist not to see everything going on mentioned in the article and still took potshots at us. Fuchs him and his agenda.

 

[maheo30]

Serious question. Is this kind of stuff known to our beat writers but they are too scared to write it at the time? Or, is this the kind of stuff which only comes out after the fact when players are no longer scared to say anything?

 

[Back Alley Gator]

Serious question. Is this kind of stuff known to our beat writers but they are too scared to write it at the time? Or, is this the kind of stuff which only comes out after the fact when players are no longer scared to say anything?

My guess is both.

 

[oxrageous]

Our Gators are 58-31 since Gatorchatter was formed, which SUCKS. This poor website has never had much to cheer about.

 

[soflagator]

Reading these articles a couple of years after the fact is so damn depressing. I remember reading one about Butters that was just as horrifying as this one in a few different ways. Before that, the Chimp melted down in his own way.

My point is, UF managed to hire THREE BLITHERING IDIOTS in a row, it's incredible. What's even more incredible is that Jeremy Foley was not only not run out of town on a rail like he should have been, they've allowed him to hang around and named an entire wing of the new facilities after him. Jesus wept.

What Gator fans have gone through since Tebow left should qualify us for PTSD disability payments from the government. We've been forced to eat crap and told it's ice cream. What a sh!t show.

That’s the point I take away from each one of these hit pieces. They take the criticism right to Foley’s door, but simply stop there. You really can’t keep having it both ways, nor can you keep calling it mere coincidence that these “cancers” continue reappearing. I get the resistance to accusing him(them) of malice or intent. But at a minimum, they’ve demonstrated in three straight hires that they cannot accurately gauge the long term best interest for UF and have hemorrhaged tens of millions in the process. Even if they got it right with Napier, that whole admin office needs to be cleaned out. One out of four doesn’t cut it.

 

[Gator By Marriage]

This article is crazy.

I’ll remove any political commentary. There’s a small part on marching for BLM. But it’s small and really has no bearing on the article.

Culture Shock, Part I: inside the Florida Gators' implosion under Dan Mullen | In All Kinds of Weather

The Florida Gators seemed to be in good hands under Mullen- until they weren't. And the downward spiral was worse than many may have thought.

inallkindsofweather.com

Thanks for posting.

As hard as the dysfunction is to stomach as Gator fan, intellectually I can't disbelieve any of it. What we all saw in the competition between Franks and Trask was really a symptom of everything else that was wrong. I disagree with you a bit on the BLM thing. It's a small part of the story, but an instructive one. Politics aside, the coaches, starting with Mullen should have had the sense to realize that what was going on that summer might be a huge issue with the majority of the football team. And him not having the sense to reign in Hevesy and Granthem on that issue, and others, signed his own death warrant. Does anyone think that Saban and most other P5 HC's didn't know what do in that situation? In the end it was just one more nail in the coffin, but like most of the rest of Mullen's issues, they were self-inflicted wounds. (Apologies for the mixing of metaphors there.)

One would have thought that having been an SEC coach for several years, and previously being on the staff at UF, would have prepared him better for the nature of the job, but clearly it did not. The fact that Granthem and Hevesy could treat him that way (and Knox for God's sake!) and yet he still brought them with him from MSU speaks volumes.

He may not be the man to bring UF back to the glory days, but I am confident in predicting we'll never see an article like that about Billy Napier.

 

[soflagator]

Also, fuchs that Bama azzclown Feinbaum for his comments last week that FL fans are being "patient with Napier when we weren't being patient with Mullen a year after he took us to the SEC Championship." He's too experienced a football journalist not to see everything going on mentioned in the article and still took potshots at us. Fuchs him and his agenda.

To your last point, it’s so funny how gator fans are always the problem, until they aren’t. With everyone of Muschamp’s nine total wins at South Carolina, we were reminded how we ran him off too quickly and would regret it. He’s now a DC(paper title and by default). Greg McElroy fumed at us for pulling the plug on McElwain, a guy that’s about to get fired from Central Michigan. And national media crucified us for how quickly we turned on Mullen in ‘21. Yet every single thing in that article was mentioned, repeatedly here, dating back to his first months on the job. I would say an apology from the national media is in order. Random people on a message board applied common sense and didn’t convince themselves that what we were seeing wasn’t actually happening or as bad as it appeared. Even those of us that supported Mullen like every other coach(until there was no basis for it anymore) called it like it was and we were right.

 

[G8trwood]

Beat writers in the bubble drinking cool aid. What many here surmised. I remember a couple players tweeting back then about how good KT looked in practice . But radio silence. Sort of like give pierce the damn ball.

moral, lazy douches don’t get better. Where oh where were the AD’s? Doing damage control and hoping no one found their fubar decisions.

 

[Silverback Gator]

Where oh where were the AD’s? Doing damage control and hoping no one found their fubar decisions.

How could the failures sneak up on an AD unless asleep at the wheel. The fan base watching catastrophes unfold and the AD is thinking what? Foley is fuchen douche's fuchen douche.

 

[jdh5484]

I always thought that Trask had to have been a crappy player in practice that just really excelled in a game setting. I gave Mullen the benefit of a doubt. Maybe Trask just made the most of his chance and things clicked once Franks went down.

Silly me.

But for as inexplicable as those decisions were, the real head-scratchers were at quarterback- where Mullen himself made the call. Players at practice watched Kyle Trask outperform Feleipe Franks throughout the 2018 season, only to watch Franks holds onto the starting job. Here, players’ tunes changed to outright astonishment as they watched Franks continue to start for the Florida Gators on Saturdays.

According to the article, players saw the same thing with EJ vs AR.

Mullen just wasn't CEO material for a place like UF. (I don't see how he made it at Cowbell either).

 

[jdh5484]

Wow...just wow.

Normally, we say "fuchs Dan Mullen" as a lighthearted way of venting; but after reading that, the phrase should henceforth be "fuchs Dan Mullen, may he burn in hell."

Seriously.

I think it was tgator who took umbrage that I say Dullen and Muschump are tied in my legion of hatred and he disagreed...but seriously, I can't see any Gator fan reading that and ever thinking otherwise. It confirms everything we've long suspected to be true and heard whispers of.

Also, fuchs that Bama azzclown Feinbaum for his comments last week that FL fans are being "patient with Napier when we weren't being patient with Mullen a year after he took us to the SEC Championship." He's too experienced a football journalist not to see everything going on mentioned in the article and still took potshots at us. Fuchs him and his agenda.

The Feinbaum comments were stupid. He's such a Bamma chode.

 

[Silverback Gator]

These revelations make it almost impossible for a high profile program AD to entertain serious discussions with sMullen about a HC job. Good.