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You mean the gutter right there by the permit box? That gutter doesn't carry alot of water and that whole area is a huge flowerbed/shrub area. There is just a little grass to remove, which you can barely see in that pic. I've kept that grass alive so I can use it to repair areas.
I do have 2 gutters that penetrate the deck into 6 inch pipes that run underneath it. You can see them in the 1st pic. One is the leftest column, the other is on the corner of the house. We went round and round on the best way to do that, but I like what we came up with and where we ran them.
Expansion joints..... Yeah, I'm with ya, there is nothing there. It's like an ice rink right now. Do they cut them in later, but before they apply the knock down and deck paint? There is a huge bundle of expansion fiber boards sitting on my back patio.
i thought we talked about expansion joints earlier (post 126). If youre gonna cut joints, they need to be done as the concrete is setting (this is as the surface water dries off), like within about 6 hours or less. Concrete develops it's cracks as it hydrates, which in 90+ weather is almost immediately. Are you keeping it misted? The fiberboard expansion joint material is for use against another concrete surface. The joints I'm concerned with belong in the field. A 3 or 4' wide walk should get whats called a dummy joint or struck joint (see your existing patio in post 130) every 4 or 5 feet. These encourage cracks from linear expansion to occur within the struck joint to disguise it. These are tooled in with a jointing tool immediately after screeding and striking the concrete. The true expansion joint is actually whats called a construction joint which should help prevent a crack from expansion. In a walk they should be about every 3rd or 4th dummy joint or 20 '. I think I advised you in an earlier discussion on the appropriate distance between expansion joints in the deck field. If theres one guarantee when you pour concrete, its not if its gonna crack but where. The joints help minimize them and at least encourage their location.
I like the idea of the pavilion.