Recruiting 2022 Recruiting Thread: Evers and CJ Smith Decommit

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I'm very hopeful and still excited getting rid of the trash that would have made us bottom dwellers. It's on to bigger and better things.
 

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Most, including myself, assumed we'd add a few and end up in the 10-20th range.
This is where my expectation is.

If by NSD we don't have a minimum of 15 in the class with at least half 4/5 stars, I'll consider this a failure.

At this point I've got my doubts he'll hit that target. Maybe he can pull a rabbit out of his hat.
 

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Good Christ, just getting caught up here. The hand wringing going on is so ferocious they can feel the breeze in Hawaii. That post Bait just made above mine is the most embarrassing post he's ever made. I couldn't even quote it, it was too cringeworthy.

Sofla has also lost his mind - never seen him like this.

As for Gibson, we don't know an effing thing about what did or did not go down. Are internet rumors now facts? Are you trying to tell me that Napier, who is a recruiting freak, simply "forgot" or deliberately blew off even talking to Gibson? We're supposed to believe this after he's done about ten in-home visits in 48 hours?

I think Gibson probably made it clear he was done with UF after Mullen was fired. Bye-bye, Gibson.

None of this worries me one single iota. None. Zero. We'll come out better for it.

You have seen me like this before. We've done this "it's broken, I have to kill everything before we even begin" approach before. You're just hoping that it doesn't end up the same way this time. And so am I. But it's eerily similar and if allowed to continue will be a rerun of 2011-2014.
 

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To me, Evers looks like he’s caught something in the womb. Hearing about Karen Evers is making more sense.
 

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Because we had like 12 total commits. There was some quality, but it was mostly that we were just not getting anyone. Most, including myself, assumed we'd add a few and end up in the 10-20th range. Not lose practically everything we have, including almost all the best talent, and have to sign 20+ just to get back to where we were. We're not sifting through anything. Again, there's no debating whether you take a Florida-Top20player outside of some serious character concerns that no one else sees.

The Dan naysayers here will go to any length like getting excited about Napier getting a visit from a big LB GaTech commitment that was set up at least 3 months ago. You are right that UF would have ended up probably in the 15 to 10 range with Mullen and certainly in the 20 to 10 range. It will be interesting to see where UF ends up now that we have someone who "takes recruiting seriously."

Sadly, we have a track record of transition classes at UF. The 247 site has ranked the five transition classes in the last 20 years:

2002: 10
2005: 12
2011: 11
2015: 21
2018: 14

I view this as the baseline recruiting for UF. This is what I mean when I say UF recruits itself. With the McElwain exception, these coaches, Zook, Meyer, Muschamp and Mullen all had very similarly ranked transition classes.

Maybe Napier will put together a class in this mold or better. Lots of high major jobs have new coaches meaning lots of players are potentially back on the market. On the other hand, that is not looking so probable today.
 

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The Dan naysayers here will go to any length like getting excited about Napier getting a visit from a big LB GaTech commitment that was set up at least 3 months ago. You are right that UF would have ended up probably in the 15 to 10 range with Mullen and certainly in the 20 to 10 range. It will be interesting to see where UF ends up now that we have someone who "takes recruiting seriously."

Sadly, we have a track record of transition classes at UF. The 247 site has ranked the five transition classes in the last 20 years:

2002: 10
2005: 12
2011: 11
2015: 21
2018: 14

I view this as the baseline recruiting for UF. This is what I mean when I say UF recruits itself. With the McElwain exception, these coaches, Zook, Meyer, Muschamp and Mullen all had very similarly ranked transition classes.

Maybe Napier will put together a class in this mold or better. Lots of high major jobs have new coaches meaning lots of players are potentially back on the market. On the other hand, that is not looking so probable today.

We're not going to speed up the process. Just to mess up.

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So, ESD has been going for about four years. Recruiting existed before it. Just saying.
 

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Napier personally telling anyone that had anything to do with Mullen and company to take a hike. This class was absolute **** to begin with so im not sure how upset I'm supposed to be with losing a few kids. Gibson is the only one I really hope we get back on board. And maybe Evers but honestly his family seems way too damn involved and attention seeking and that rarely ends well. His mom was doing interviews like she was the 4 star QB. And now she's allegedly bad mouthing us to recruits? Her and her son can go. This class was always gonna get worse before it got better but the optics currently don't reflect well on the new coach so far.
That being said Napier himself said if he doesn't get 25 good players per cycle we will be looking for a new head coach soon so... he knows the deal, and after the clown show we've put up with for the last decade in recruiting I'm just gonna trust he knows what he's doing.
 

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Sadly, we have a track record of transition classes at UF. The 247 site has ranked the five transition classes in the last 20 years:

2002: 10
2005: 12
2011: 11
2015: 21
2018: 14

I view this as the baseline recruiting for UF. This is what I mean when I say UF recruits itself. With the McElwain exception, these coaches, Zook, Meyer, Muschamp and Mullen all had very similarly ranked transition classes.
There was no early signing day when those coaches came in. They had 3 months to recruit; Billy’s got 2 weeks.
 

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There’s no spinning this. It’s a shyt show.
Why do people have expectations that are not likely to happen or have the expected long term results? I expected a mass exodus as he will have to burn bridges to get the culture changed. Next year will be ugly.
 

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The elephant in the room once again is how does this type of approach not come up in the interviews and negotiations with Stricklin? Did we really ok this at the highest level and just give this guy a blank check as to how this class was handled, or did we not bother to even ask? And does Stricklin understand he's done if this goes south?
 

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I’m usually on the optimistic pumper side of the fence but I can’t help but be concerned about what I’m seeing unfold. Despite the recruits being Mullen recruited, some were definitely worth keeping and worth investment for return on. Bond and Gibson were in the category of worth keeping, period.

what concerns me is the rumors of the recruits not even being contacted. Where is the decency of the staff to reach out? If you don’t want them, fine, but you’ve got to give them a call and tell them, right? We’ve lost 5 recruits in the blink of an eye. That’s weird AF!

it would certainly help quell the fears if he could do something drastic and immediate. As hard as he may be working on the trail, I don’t expect to see anything drastic or immediate. And that’s further concerning. I don’t even think he has decent recruiting chops. He’s fallen in on some easy to recruit from schools. And pilfered through 2-3 star talent while at ULL.

There’s two o-line recruits who we should definitely be telling to kick rocks and yet, they still remain committed. If anyone was going to get told to be gone, I’d have to think it would’ve been them. Not upset over Nolton leaving either. Napier might as well just tell them all to leave minus Mcllelan and Lyons. Eff it. I hope his focus and intent is truly quality over quantity.
 

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Why do people have expectations that are not likely to happen or have the expected long term results? I expected a mass exodus as he will have to burn bridges to get the culture changed. Next year will be ugly.

The problem is, is he burning bridges just with the recruits or their coaches as well. Coaches will look at their players and say, UF doesn't stand by their word. That doesn't help, Butters did a lot of damage to our brand with High School Coaches, Mullen did damage to our brand with High School Coaches... now does this have a lasting effect?
 

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The problem is, is he burning bridges just with the recruits or their coaches as well. Coaches will look at their players and say, UF doesn't stand by their word. That doesn't help, Butters did a lot of damage to our brand with High School Coaches, Mullen did damage to our brand with High School Coaches... now does this have a lasting effect?

If you would do just a little bit of research instead of posting ignorant crap you would know that his father was a high school coach and his brothers are high school coaches and he has had a great rapport with high school coaches, parents and players throughout his coaching career.
 
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