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Recruiting 2022 Post-ESD Recruiting Thread: 4* DE Jack Pyburn commits
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Like the line from The Program...
"Yeah, but when was the last time 80,000 people showed up to watch a kid do a damn chemistry experiment?"
The 1993 film that helps illustrate just how long it's been all about the money.
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My understanding is that UF is one of the few athletic departments that actually DOES make money for the University.
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I'd view that as a coach being disingenuous and a pompous ass clown flying into a high school on a helicopter after you've won a championship ****ing douche!
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You’re drunk.
Not one single college athlete has ever sat in negotiations over TV contracts, bowl contracts, conference championship games, etc.. The conferences and their member universities created this monster. Not the players.
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Okie commit & high 4* athlete/CB Gentry Williams now has an OV scheduled for January 29th. Right before NSD……
Flip in the offing?
Flip in the offing?
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tru dat
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I believe the NIL thing will be scaled back quite a bit over the next few years, maybe even at the players’ choosing. The irony of the whole “being exploited” argument is that it’s really just shifted to a new exploiter. A million or so for Bar Stool is nothing compared to the press they’re getting and will get in the coming season as these players are followed. Meanwhile, as people like ltraz have pointed out, the players are basically foregoing a year of eligibility and film, being coached by some no name coach, and will then have to transfer, unlearn bad traits, learn new stuff and have at best 2 years of real film. And that’s if they aren’t completely yesterday’s news by then and a new crop hasn’t stolen much of the spotlight as has almost always been the case. If that lack of exposure, film, competition and coaching causes them to slide 10-15 spots in the draft, how much money has it cost them? And Bar Stool—basically the same villain as the conferences or schools—is way better off.
Lugenbill has said some players are completely missing the point and tripping over dollars for pennies. At some point, that will be realized by a lot of these kids. Selling an autograph, or something similar, is one thing. But these major endorsements for what amounts to peanuts in that context, make a lot less sense than they appear.
Lugenbill has said some players are completely missing the point and tripping over dollars for pennies. At some point, that will be realized by a lot of these kids. Selling an autograph, or something similar, is one thing. But these major endorsements for what amounts to peanuts in that context, make a lot less sense than they appear.
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Yep. But I’d much rather go to UF and make less money now, consistently plow top shelf skirt, receive national level exposure every weekend providing me with the best opportunity to go pro.
These clowns ending up at JSU will be broke with no possibility making it into the league.
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The UAA said it was $350k several years ago. That included scholarship, fees, housing, food, coaching, S&C, trainers, medical, academic support, etc.
Hopefully most will look beyond the immediate cash - which can evaporate very quickly. That’s what Billy and most good coaches preach. Prepare for life. And maybe the LOI and scholarships will evolve into contracts that provide some stability. Free agency still has contracts. Young men need to learn to persevere through hardship rather than changing the scenery when things get tough.
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They do get cash, often through Pell Grants and per diem money. Not a lot but when everything else is covered it’s all spending money.
But I’ve never liked the idea that every other kid can have a job on or off campus but an athlete couldn’t. Meanwhile, they are putting in crazy long hours. I had a friend who played at Harvard. Even there, and 40 years ago, between practice, weights, time with the trainer getting taped up before practice then iced down after, etc., and meetings it was over 6 hours a day in season and 3-4 out of season.
An SEC athlete is scheduled almost all day every day year ‘round. Plus when you DO get to class and study, your body has been pounded and strained to the limit. True equity in all that will never be achieved but must be pursued.
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Net loss? On paper for most - not all - yes. U. Chicago dropped athletics altogether, and it’s an elite institution with world renown in several areas. But they are almost unique in that standing.
But why do they all do it? Why are schools always coming into the FBS and sponsoring sports programs? Because it creates an identity that bolsters giving, enrollment, business involvement and grants. The Ivy League schools run full programs, so do the elite smaller schools like Williams and Amherst on down to small schools in my area like Florida Southern, Southeastern, Warner University and Weber International and junior colleges too.
Don’t discount the role athletics have had in getting UF to the top 5, or progress being made at other schools. And don’t discount the role they have in providing opportunities for young men and women to change not only their lives but their descendants downstream by earning a degree and making a good life even when they don’t continue in sports after college. There is no net loss. There is clearly net growth.
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Unfortunately, current culture is working against this. When instant gratification becomes the central theme in society, preaching anything to the contrary is a hard sell. It is particularly difficult with young men at lowest rungs of the socio-economic scale and for a host of reasons.
When factoring it all in, should any of us be surprised that top recruit in the country, Travis Hunter, decided to take the money and go to Jackson State? No doubt people having been telling him for years how great he is and how he’s a shoo-in for the NFL. Not hard to imagine that after a while he started to believe it and think that way. The Pied Piper, in the form of Deion Sanders, comes a long and says hey, I’ll show you how to do it and here’s a million bucks, follow me.
What may change this is years from now, coaches being able to demonstrate how going to lesser places or going where the money was the most, usually didn’t lead to these kids achieving their dream. In the mean time, we are going to see more and more kids deciding to take the money and run.
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