Does Foley Have Brain One?

[Maillot Jaune]

Doesn't mean he has the right stuff for the job anymore. Anyone who looks at the football situation with a sharp mind would be able to make a definite decision given the last 2 years......And that decision is to get Muschamp off the property yesterday. He has a track record of doing damage to the program....he will do more damage before Foley acts accordingly....not to mention the fact he is screwing us recruiting wise more than likely on purpose.

Gold I tell ya, gold! Some of you folks crack me up. Screwing up recruiting on purpose, doesn't have management skills because he can't fire anyone.....you can't make this stuff up! I'd go on but it would dignify some of these cretin-like statements. Muschamp is toast and everyone knows it. The timing is not near as important as the next hire. As we saw in 1980 and 1990, one guy can make a world of difference.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Gold I tell ya, gold! Some of you folks crack me up. Screwing up recruiting on purpose, doesn't have management skills because he can't fire anyone.....you can't make this stuff up! I'd go on but it would dignify some of these cretin-like statements. Muschamp is toast and everyone knows it. The timing is not near as important as the next hire. As we saw in 1980 and 1990, one guy can make a world of difference.

So a good manager lets an employee run the company into the ground ? And probably lets some assets walk out the back door with the employee on the way out right ?

 

[playzwtrux]

but sometimes I think I could call better plays and sit those who don't run the correct routes, miss protections etc. Now I believe in making things simple so you can do them correctly. The idea that champ just notices that the offense and somewhat the defense needs to be simple so they can run it properly.

I agree, but that is on Muschamp, and not Foley.

I too believe that the decision has already been made and we will see a change, but I don't see where today is better than after next week, or at the end of the season. It will be announced when the time is right, today is not that day. He couldn't announce the next hire until at least after the season anyway.

 

[t-gator]

If Foley wants to give WM more time to save his job, he should just be up front about it. Not give us this coach speak. Why is hiding what he plans to do?

Because we're just a bunch of piss on fans that have made him rich.

 

[playzwtrux]

He has given an explanation, he will evaluate the season as a whole. If your boss gave you a project to work on and fired you half the way thru because he didn't like the way it was going, how would you feel. On top of that he brought in 50,000 people to boo you while you tried to do your job. This may be a stretch, but I think you get the idea.

 

[EuroGator]

If Foley wants to give WM more time to save his job, he should just be up front about it. Not give us this coach speak. Why is hiding what he plans to do?

...because life isn't that simple? Do you really think that he publicizes all of his plans? There's a reason that there's abundant speculation every time there's a coaching change at a prominent university. In fact the term hot seat is used so much because AD's don't give game-by-game feedback about the coaches to the public. He'll get the pieces in place and then we'll see what unfolds. Most of us will never even know who he contacted and whether he got his first choice.

This is life 101. Just stop long enough to think it through.

 

[EuroGator]

All people want from Foley is an explanation about what he is going to do to fix the situation. Why is that too much to ask?

Yes.

 

[Maillot Jaune]

All people want from Foley is an explanation about what he is going to do to fix the situation. Why is that too much to ask? If a ceo tanked a public company, its shareholders and especially wall street would demand an explanation on the plan to turn things around.

I guess I haven't seen the "want an explanation" crowd here. What I do hear is Foley needs to be fired, shot, humiliated, have his leadership skills investigated and all places in between. What is he going to say: "I'm firing the coach and we will bring in a good guy, promise." There's no point in making some wind bag speech until we have a new coach on, or near, the line. Everyone knows Muschamp is gone. At risk of repeating myself, the company is still making a ton of money, more than the peer group. When out right emotion takes over for calculating reason you end up with the situation in Tallahassee, where everyone is so deep in the weeds they can't see what everyone else does, which is the worst case of "everyone is out of step in the parade but my kid" syndrome.

 

[soflagator]

Im sorry that is coachspeak. A normal person would say WM is going to be our coach until the last game of the season. I'm doing this to give him a chance to come back from the last few games. I still think he can turn this around. But he doesn't do that because it would imply that WM will be retained for another season provided. That would completely split the Gator Nation. So he uses vague coachspeak. He would not be able to get away with something like this on Wall Street.

 

[playzwtrux]

Im sorry that is coachspeak. A normal person would say WM is going to be our coach until the last game of the season. I'm doing this to give him a chance to come back from the last few games. I still think he can turn this around. But he doesn't do that because it would imply that WM will be retained for another season provided. That would completely split the Gator Nation. So he uses vague coachspeak. He would not be able to get away with something like this on Wall Street.

sooooo, you want him to pull a nick saban, ala miami/alabama?

 

[playzwtrux]

sofla, that is gold right there.

 

[Maillot Jaune]

Dude, on Wall Street they pay you to make money, which Foley does. It is not my opinion that he's one of the best in the business, it's the industry's opinion. Who gives a sh*t was Foley says right now. Everyone knows win, lose or draw, Muschamp is gone. I'd rather put my energy in to finding the next great coach.

 

[MJMGator]

Gold I tell ya, gold! Some of you folks crack me up. Screwing up recruiting on purpose, doesn't have management skills because he can't fire anyone.....you can't make this stuff up! I'd go on but it would dignify some of these cretin-like statements. Muschamp is toast and everyone knows it. The timing is not near as important as the next hire. As we saw in 1980 and 1990, one guy can make a world of difference.

I agree. Foley deserves criticism for hiring him, but demanding he be fired now is foolish. He gave him another season and that's what we should have all expected. I'm sure he's working through the list of replacements already.

 

[t-gator]

I agree. Foley deserves criticism for hiring him, but demanding he be fired now is foolish. He gave him another season and that's what we should have all expected. I'm sure he's working through the list of replacements already.

I don't know that he is. I've heard him say he would never be looking for other coaches behind the current head coaches back. He said this on the radio like last year sometime

 

[MJMGator]

I don't know that he is. I've heard him say he would never be looking for other coaches behind the current head coaches back. He said this on the radio like last year sometime

No way he's sitting there waiting. He might not be having direct contact, but he's got people talking to agents. I don't think there's more than a few folks that actually believe WM will be back in 2015...Foley ain't one of them.

 

[t-gator]

No way he's sitting there waiting. He might not be having direct contact, but he's got people talking to agents. I don't think there's more than a few folks that actually believe WM will be back in 2015...Foley ain't one of them.

then why didn't he fire him? It seems like he's trying to give him a chance to save his job.

 

[Maillot Jaune]

then why didn't he fire him? It seems like he's trying to give him a chance to save his job.

Foley has already told Muschamp he's gone. It's up to WM if he wants to resign or be fired. This alleviates all the going behind the back drama.