Recruiting Early Signing Day 2021

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  1. rogdochar

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    Why isn't it possible that Emory Jones will be a top QB in the SEC? That his combo of skills unleashed will take most possessions toTDs?
    A good passer, a very good scrambler, and that extra runner who thins out the opposing defense for our other RBs - especially Lingard & Bowman?

    It's this year - always this year, until next.
     
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      he was never a five star period he was never even close to a five star.

      maybe he stood by a few five Stars once or twice before he failed out of high school.
       
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        AND what a FUCHS year it has been...Please let 2021 get here.
         
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          I was strictly responding to the question of "what do we have to lose". I didn't mean that fsu got there the same way, but that's what they lost (by going young guy with less of a resume ironically). This is the 2nd time you've somehow interpreted that as me saying I think we should stay where we're at. I don't think granthem should have been broguht here. After he was, I think he should have been replaced. After he wasn't replaced, I think he should have been replaced the following year. That didn't happen and now I think he should be replaced this year.

          We're already richting, bc we have mullen. What I want to avoid is 2016 mullen when he was on the hot seat at msu, bc they were so bad.
           
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            To minimize Mullen's QB accomplishments is silly. He's shown he can win at a high level with pro style and dual threat QB's having had Alex Smith DT (#1 pick, NFL starter) Leak Pro (MNC), Tebow DT (Heisman, MNC, 1rd NFL) Dak DT (3 star, NFL starter).

            And now he's taken a 2 star nobody Trask (Pro) and made him a Heisman candidate. If you think those aren't assets he can claim to recruits I don't know what to tell you. He's as good as any other QB coach/OC in the NCAA. So why can't he land a big time, 5 star QB?

            *Yes I have questions about his ability to run an entire program but this is specifically a question about his ability to recruit.
             
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              He is the #1 JUCO though
               
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              And in this age of crazy $$$$ contracts...I'd take a chance with a low ball...High BONUS contract. One that won't require a buy out until you prove yourself....BUT that's the issue...They come demanding "BUY OUTS"
              The flip side is they can walk if they do preform.
               
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              Only 1 of those guys was really a pro-style QB in college in the aspect that they didn't run a heavy dose of QB reads and options. And with Leak, our offense struggled and needed a nasty D to win big. With our current D, that's a 3-win team.

              He can't land a big time QB for a couple reasons, but mostly for the reason he has trouble landing a big time anything: personality. The other thing is that there are big questions about how his QBs are prepared. Alex Smith is the actual positive there. Dak and Tebow had tons of talent, but neither scratched the surface of their potential in college. Coaching or something else? Trask is a heisman candidate, bc of #s, but where is he in draft projections and why?
               
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                I'd agree with you there as long as they really like the guy. On the flip side, any of the top guys that are actually worth 1.8 mil SHOULD be sure things so I'd have no problem there either. The only option that's stupid is giving a mediocre DC that doesnt have other competing offers 1.8 mil.
                 
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                  And what good is it if your DC has an defense that can't stop a team of blocking dummies?...First they need to know where to line up.
                   
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                  Agreed.
                  And the only ones buying are the ones that are not elite players
                   
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                  And we are discussing his ability to recruit, the QB is the premiere position, and the one that requires the most professionalism. If we are talking any other position, it doesn't matter as much, but to be a QB at the next level to reach that second contract, you have to be a grown up (see Jameis as an example of the opposite).

                  Now if you are a 17 year old you see:
                  Alex Smith drafted in 06 when they were 3 and he is been an NFL journeyman are more associated to Meyer
                  Chris Leak not drafted
                  Tebow 1st round pick and then out of the league due to not being properly prepared, they were 5/6 years old at the time also more associated to Meyer
                  Tyson Lee - Not Drafted
                  Chris Relf - Not Drafted
                  Dylan Favre - Not Drafted
                  Tyler Russell - Canadian Football League Winnipeg Blue Bombers
                  Dak Prescott - 4th round pick - Dallas Cowboys who we now see his real potential he didn't reach under Mullen...
                  Nick Fitzgerald - Not Drafted
                  Damian Williams - Not Drafted
                  Keytaon Thompson - Not Drafted
                  Feleipe Franks - TBD
                  Kyle Trask - TBD

                  So when you are walking in to that 17 year old living room, talking preparing that young man for the NFL, you got Dak.
                   
                  #273 TheDouglas78, Dec 17, 2020
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                    The roids or the coke?
                     
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                      They go hand in hand
                       
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                      Trask is showing as a late 1st and high 2nd right now. But this isn't a qb heavy draft either. Last year he would have been a late day two to mid day three pick.
                       
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                        So was Putu. WGAF?
                         
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                          it really seems like they would counteract each other.

                          No wonder Grier looked more like a Biden than a Tebow.
                           
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                          I'm guessing 2nd round especially for a team who will need a back-up.
                           
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                          Balance. You can't just focus on all the negative while ignoring the positives or you become an angry ahole.
                           
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