Fix your leaking toilet - it's really easy, they said

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  1. oxrageous

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    I had heard there was nothing to it, just replace the wax ring. Even watched a couple of YouTube videos. So I got the toilet drained and unbolted, and moved it aside to see this:

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    I sat there blinking and horrified, not even sure what I was looking at. I told my wife to come take a look and she was grossed out. Doing further research, I found out this isn't that uncommon, especially if you have a palm tree nearby, which I do.

    At any rate, I got it all scraped out, the new ring in, and replaced the toilet with no leaks. Another mission accomplished.
     
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      I've (broken and ) replaced a few, no big deal. However, I've never confronted a monstrosity like that before. Makes you wonder what else is growing under the house.
       
      • crosscreekcooter

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        Tell me something. Is the palm tree growing inside the bathroom? It looks more like you been flushing dogs down the toilet.
         
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          Ever thought of some manscaping?
           
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            Same here. Never saw that before.
             
          • oxrageous

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            They call it a "horses tail". Check it out. Fortunately mine wasn't nearly this bad.

             
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            Can you lend me a hand with mine next?

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            Alex.
             
            • oxrageous

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              You guys just aren't that bright. These were tree roots, not poop. There wasn't a turd to be seen.
               
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              In "the village", there are no such problems!
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                So did you use RoundUp on the area? It'll just come back if not.
                 
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                A plumbing inspector somewhere in TX likes this thread.
                 
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                  Had a backed up toilet.
                  Snaked it but kept hitting something solid.
                  Removed the toilet.
                  Found a knob from the exercise bike. Damn two-year old.
                  Reinstalled toilet. Hid knob so it wouldn't happen again. I'm smart like that.
                  Two weeks later toilet is stopped up again.
                  Snake it again.
                  Something solid again.
                  Remove toilet again.
                  Damn it. It's the knob again.
                  Go look in hiding place, the knob is still hiding.
                  Go look at bike. There was a second knob.
                  Damn kid is nothing if not persistent.

                  Moral of story - don't have kids.
                   
                  • oxrageous

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                    I laughed out loud.
                     
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                      I would be worried where else roots are.
                       
                      • Treebeard

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                        Ox, I don't know your whole situation outside - septic or city sewer nearby trees, etc., but some comments:

                        1. Those don't look like palm roots. Could be, but I doubt it.

                        2. If roots are here, then there is a crack or leak somewhere that allowed them access. Roots will find and follow the moisture, they don't break thru pipes to find it. Problem will return and likely with a vengeance. See number 4. Your video mentions it coming up between the foundation and the pipe. Either way there has to be a seal or else.

                        3. Someone mentioned RoundUp. Not the thing here since RoundUp/Glyphosate is absorbed thru the green foliage to be transmitted to the roots system.

                        4. Over simple solution to describe, not always easy to do: along edge of house near where bathroom is, test for roots going under or into the toilet drain. You can cut off the larger parent root to kill any roots beyond that under the house.
                         
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                      • oxrageous

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                        My God, am I worried. I couldn't even sleep last night.

                        I've got more important things to worry about.
                         
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                        I'm assuming that basket in the picture is for the dirty laundry
                         
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                        Looks like he needs to drink the round up.
                         
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                          I didn't know that. So I Googled it. Well, it turns out that RoundUp can, and will, effectively kill a plant via root absorption.

                          Here's the text I got from The Effect of Glyphosate on Tree Roots :
                          Glyphosate
                          Glyphosate is an organic, high-phosphate compound widely used as a broad-spectrum herbicide to kill unwanted plants of many different types. It is usually diluted in liquid and applied as a spray directly on the weeds' foliage. When it contacts a plant, the compound is taken up by its roots and foliage, where it blocks an enzyme required for plant survival, eventually causing it to die. During spraying, glyphosate also comes into contact with soil. It binds strongly to soil particles and can remain in the ground for many months, according to Cornell University.

                          Tree Roots
                          Roots serve many roles in supporting all plant life, including trees. They take up water and nutrients from the soil, allowing them to move into and through a tree's transport system to reach all of its parts. According to Utah State University, when glyphosate is applied to an undesirable plant and kills it, the dying plant releases some of the chemical back into the soil through its roots. Tree roots in the area can take up some of this chemical, either by contact with the roots of the dying plant or by directly taking up residual glyphosate from the soil.
                           

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