Gators part ways with DB coach Kirk Callahan

[GatorInGeorgia]

McElwain is making at least $500K more than Muschamp made at UF.

Not f you add in the paycheck Muschamp is still collecting from us despite not having been employed by UF for over a year.

 

[t-gator]

We was paying trob 500k

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

We was paying trob 500k

The driving factor is the total salary pool for the assistants. Mac, like Muschamp, gets a set amount to use to pay the guys. If T-Rob was getting $500k that just means that somebody else on the staff was getting less. I don't know what the pool is for Mac's staff but our assistant pool a year or two ago was not even in the top 20 in the country. We need to be in the top 10 at a minimum if we want to be competitive.

 

[Marianna-FL_Gator]

We paid our staff $3.42 million last year total. What I couldn't believe is what we're paying Nord...Wtf??? Dude has been a disaster on the trail and special teams we're a joke. Callahan was making $300,000 so if he was making that maybe we'll be able to find another $75 grand or so to go with it and get someone good!

Florida released its 2015 coaching salaries to the media Wednesday, including Jim McElwain.

McElwain signed a six-year contract that will pay him $3.5 million per year through 2020. He had a $500,000 signing bonus, and he’ll also receive a $500,000 retention bonus based every year if he stays.

Here are the performance-based incentives in McElwain’s contract, via 247Sports.

$250,000: Win National Title
$200,000: Play For National Title
$150,000: Play in National Semi-Final
$100,000: Play in Access Bowl Game (Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Peach or Sugar)
$75,000: Win SEC Championship Game
$50,000: AP National Coach of the Year
$50,000: Top 10 Finish
$37,500: Play in SEC Championship Game
$37,500: Play in a Bowl Game
$25,000: AP SEC Coach of the Year

ASSISTANT COACHES

The Florida Gators are spending $3.42 million on their assistant coaches for 2015, up from $3.23 million in 2014, according to The Orlando Sentinel.

Defensive coordinator Geoff Collins is the Gators’ highest paid assistant coach. Collins, who came from Mississippi State, will make $600,000, an increase of $25,000 from his previous job with the Bulldogs.

Interestingly, Florida was able to poach Chris Rumph from Texas for the same salary. Jim McElwain is an excellent recruiter, huh?

Perhaps the Gators’ most important coach, Mike Summers, is making the least. Summers improved the offensive line drastically in 2014, and he’ll earn every dollar he makes in 2015 with the same goal.

Here are Florida’s assistant salary numbers:

DC Geoff Collins: $600,000
OC Doug Nussmeier: $500,000
DL coach Chris Rumph: $415,000
LB/Co-DC Randy Shannon: $400,000
TE/ST coach Greg Nord: $375,000
RB coach Tim Skipper: $350,000
DB coach Kirk Callahan: $300,000
WR coach Kerry Dixon: $275,000
OL coach Mike Summers: $200,000

 

[ThreatMatrix]

The driving factor is the total salary pool for the assistants. Mac, like Muschamp, gets a set amount to use to pay the guys. If T-Rob was getting $500k that just means that somebody else on the staff was getting less. I don't know what the pool is for Mac's staff but our assistant pool a year or two ago was not even in the top 20 in the country. We need to be in the top 10 at a minimum if we want to be competitive.

This is an interesting quandary. Is Mac to blame for low end assistants if Foley doesn't open the purse to pay for high end assistants?

 

[NoGaGator]

Nord's salary looks fubi whike Summers looks also.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

DC Geoff Collins: $600,000
OC Doug Nussmeier: $500,000
DL coach Chris Rumph: $415,000
LB/Co-DC Randy Shannon: $400,000
TE/ST coach Greg Nord: $375,000
RB coach Tim Skipper: $350,000
DB coach Kirk Callahan: $300,000
WR coach Kerry Dixon: $275,000
OL coach Mike Summers: $200,000

Anyone else see a problem here?

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Here's how we stack up against the competition.
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
We are 15th on that list for assistant pay.
HC ASST
LSU SEC Les Miles $4,300,000 $5,471,236
Auburn SEC Gus Malzahn $4,100,000 $5,341,900
Alabama SEC Nick Saban $6,932,395 $5,227,090
Georgia SEC Mark Richt $4,000,000 $4,807,200
Texas A&M SEC Kevin Sumlin $5,000,000 $4,419,360
Clemson ACC Dabo Swinney $3,300,000 $4,329,606
Florida State ACC Jimbo Fisher $5,150,000 $4,284,800
Michigan Big Ten Jim Harbaugh $7,004,000 $4,248,667
Ohio State Big Ten Urban Meyer $5,860,000 $4,021,950
South Carolina SEC Steve Spurrier $4,000,000 $3,995,600
UCLA Pac-12 Jim Mora $3,350,000 $3,969,000
Texas Big 12 Charlie Strong $5,100,000 $3,906,100
Louisville ACC Bobby Petrino $3,000,000 $3,779,800
Oklahoma Big 12 Bob Stoops $5,400,000 $3,768,500
Florida SEC Jim McElwain $3,983,359 $3,728,500
Oregon Pac-12 Mark Helfrich $3,150,000 $3,695,000
Missouri SEC Gary Pinkel $3,768,889 $3,630,000
Tennessee SEC Butch Jones $3,610,000 $3,540,700
Arkansas SEC Bret Bielema $3,954,166 $3,529,550
Nebraska Big Ten Mike Riley $2,700,000 $3,450,000

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Anyone else see a problem here?

Yes, Nord, Callahan, and Dixon are on the list. And the jury is still out on Skipper.

Summers gets paid whatever his South Cal salary-- they pay well-- was regardless. So if we pay him more, he doesn't take home any money and USC puts it in their pocket.

I suspect there was a wink wink agreement to make it up once the South Cal contract is over.

:smh: Embarrassing that Louisville pays their assistants more than we do.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

This is an interesting quandary. Is Mac to blame for low end assistants if Foley doesn't open the purse to pay for high end assistants?

I think that ultimately the blame lies with El Cheapo.

 

[Gator Fever]

Foley may really get tight now with markets falling like they are.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Well you have a point there too. The point I was making is Summers being on the bottom.....I hope this isn't how we prioritize, paying Nord almost twice as much as the Oline coach seems problematic to me. I'm not sure Collins isn't overpaid considering Shannon and Rumph are on staff......in fact if Collins disappeared I doubt anyone would notice.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

Here's how we stack up against the competition.
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
We are 15th on that list for assistant pay.
HC ASST
LSU SEC Les Miles $4,300,000 $5,471,236
Auburn SEC Gus Malzahn $4,100,000 $5,341,900
Alabama SEC Nick Saban $6,932,395 $5,227,090
Georgia SEC Mark Richt $4,000,000 $4,807,200
Texas A&M SEC Kevin Sumlin $5,000,000 $4,419,360
Clemson ACC Dabo Swinney $3,300,000 $4,329,606
Florida State ACC Jimbo Fisher $5,150,000 $4,284,800
Michigan Big Ten Jim Harbaugh $7,004,000 $4,248,667
Ohio State Big Ten Urban Meyer $5,860,000 $4,021,950
South Carolina SEC Steve Spurrier $4,000,000 $3,995,600
UCLA Pac-12 Jim Mora $3,350,000 $3,969,000
Texas Big 12 Charlie Strong $5,100,000 $3,906,100
Louisville ACC Bobby Petrino $3,000,000 $3,779,800
Oklahoma Big 12 Bob Stoops $5,400,000 $3,768,500
Florida SEC Jim McElwain $3,983,359 $3,728,500
Oregon Pac-12 Mark Helfrich $3,150,000 $3,695,000
Missouri SEC Gary Pinkel $3,768,889 $3,630,000
Tennessee SEC Butch Jones $3,610,000 $3,540,700
Arkansas SEC Bret Bielema $3,954,166 $3,529,550
Nebraska Big Ten Mike Riley $2,700,000 $3,450,000

This clearly shows what I've been griping about for the past few years. Our competition at the top end is paying much better than we are. This says Mac makes $3.9m where info above says its $3.5m (maybe signing bonus and buyout figured in to the $3.9m?). Regardless, lets assume it's $3.9m. That means we are spending $7.7m combined on HC and assistants. By contrast Bama is spending approx. $12.2m, some $4.5m more than us. Auburn's at $9.5m, FSU at $9.4m, Michigan at $11.2m, UGA at $8.8m, etc. This is pathetic and unacceptable. Foley needs to step it up. A gap of $2-$5 million per year in coaching salaries is a sure fire way to set us further behind our competition. A half million dollar difference (much less a $1-$1.5m difference with the top programs) in the assistant pool is big...it's the difference between getting that DB coach from LSU and paying him $400k to lure him away from LSU vs. getting a guy like Callahan who was getting about $330k average over 2 years and getting a guy like Collins at $600k vs. a higher rated DC at say, $900k per year. Big difference.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

This clearly shows what I've been griping about for the past few years. Our competition at the top end is paying much better than we are. This says Mac makes $3.9m where info above says its $3.5m (maybe signing bonus and buyout figured in to the $3.9m?). Regardless, lets assume it's $3.9m. That means we are spending $7.7m combined on HC and assistants. By contrast Bama is spending approx. $12.2m, some $4.5m more than us. Auburn's at $9.5m, FSU at $9.4m, Michigan at $11.2m, UGA at $8.8m, etc. This is pathetic and unacceptable. Foley needs to step it up. A gap of $2-$5 million per year in coaching salaries is a sure fire way to set us further behind our competition. A half million dollar difference (much less a $1-$1.5m difference with the top programs) in the assistant pool is big...it's the difference between getting that DB coach from LSU and paying him $400k to lure him away from LSU vs. getting a guy like Callahan who was getting about $330k average over 2 years and getting a guy like Collins at $600k vs. a higher rated DC at say, $900k per year. Big difference.

Yep. If it was a few $100K I could understand but when the competition is spending millions of dollars more on assistants there is going to be an imbalance.
But Foley is the smartest AD in America so he must know what he's doing. :rolleyes:

 

[Marianna-FL_Gator]

Yep. If it was a few $100K I could understand but when the competition is spending millions of dollars more on assistants there is going to be an imbalance.
But Foley is the smartest AD in America so he must know what he's doing. :rolleyes:

He definitely knows what he's doing because he's the 3rd highest paid AD in the country and he makes more than our OC and DC combined.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

We are 15th in assistant pay and 18th in facilities. I wonder if that corresponds to recruiting.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ressive-facilities-in-college-football/page/9

Interestingly we are 6th in the SEC in assistant pay and 5th in facilities. Somewhere else I posted our average recruit star ratings in the SEC for the last 4-5 years and coinicedntally we clocked in somewhere around 7th.

 

[Marianna-FL_Gator]

It's all connected together and without one you don't have the other. You either spend for the best or you get left in the dust!

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Summers gets paid whatever his South Cal salary-- they pay well-- was regardless. So if we pay him more, he doesn't take home any money and USC puts it in their pocket.

I wasn't aware of this, I thought he left on his own to come here. Maybe if we got rid of Collins we could split the difference between Shannon, Rumph and Summers when his USC buyout ends....then again Foley would probably rather just fold the overage into his bank account, or tell Mac he just needs to find the hottest new up and comer coach that will work for peanuts....

 

[Concrete Helmet]

We are 15th in assistant pay and 18th in facilities. I wonder if that corresponds to recruiting.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ressive-facilities-in-college-football/page/9

Interestingly we are 6th in the SEC in assistant pay and 5th in facilities. Somewhere else I posted our average recruit star ratings in the SEC for the last 4-5 years and coinicedntally we clocked in somewhere around 7th.

A lot of truth to that but just as telling I believe is the fact that our biggest recruiting rival, FSU, has beaten us 5 out of 6 times while showing the in state recruits that despite an average coach you can put a functional offense and defense together and win most of your games. We missed an opportunity at home in front at least of 30-40 prime recruits to prove this was changing. This to me is just as telling as any other factor why our class this year and the past few years is lacking in difference making offensive talent.

 

[MJMGator]

A lot of truth to that but just as telling I believe is the fact that our biggest recruiting rival, FSU, has beaten us 5 out of 6 times while showing the in state recruits that despite an average coach you can put a functional offense and defense together and win most of your games. We missed an opportunity at home in front at least of 30-40 prime recruits to prove this was changing. This to me is just as telling as any other factor why our class this year and the past few years is lacking in difference making offensive talent.

If only we had hired Bert.