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I know you're trolling or brain deaf but mullen came with a TD of Bama twice and lost on average by almost 4 TDs a game
Mullen getting creative in recruiting
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I know you're trolling or brain dead but mullen came with a TD of Bama twice and lost on average by almost 4 TDs a game
Looks like Mullens van barely won anything. In fact that record shows he couldn't out coach anyone except lesser talented teams. Except USA of course.
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According to an article from two years ago, similar to you article from who years ago about his record. You want Mullen to be great, I get it... but the data isn't there to support your claim. Unlike you, I'm a data driven person, please tell me if Arkansas is so much better than MSU why is their average class over the time that Mullen was there have a difference of 10.222222 to 10.333333.... That is statistically the same. But Arkansas was so much better player than MSU... get the fck out of here dude. Franklin for Vandy was a great coach, he took less and beat better consistently. Mullen took average, sometimes beat average, beat up on directional schools to pad his record. Great Coaches do better than their talent....
Quit trying to sell us Mullen is a Formula One, when he is really a family sedan.
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Mullen had 14 wins versus SEC teams with better facilities and resources than MSU.
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He had over 14 wins versus SEC programs that had better resources and facilities than MSU. The data does support that whether you emotionally can accept it or not.
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I'm the only one using data. You brought in two year old records, and two year old article on facilities. Not taking into account what they were before that snapshot in time, or after. You are selling Mullen and the AAU like you are personally vesting in how they appear.
Who did more with less.
Franklin with Vandy or Mullen at MSU?
Frost at UCF or Mullen at MSU?
Herman at Houston or Mullen at MSU?
that's just a start... If Mullen was so good at doing more with less according to you with no really evidence that agrees with that.... why did it take 9 years to get out of that schit hole in Starkeville?
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Franklin got hired away because he beat SEC programs with better resources and facilities like Mullen did. Then Franklin did great at his next school as you claim Mullen won't. Mullen was undefeated versus Vandy.
Frost did well with less (upset Auburn like Mullen has done) also which is why he was hired away. All of those coaches did well with less. Doesn't exclude future success as you imply on Mullen.
Took Kirby a while to leave Bama as he was waiting on a top program like Mullen did. Mullen knows the potential that UF has as he has 2 national champ rings to illustrate it. Mullen was smart with his last contract because there was no big buyout so money could go straight toward salary when he picked his program.
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Mullen should be Vandy, Vandy is a worse school with worse talent... Franklin did more with less...
b) never said Mullen won't do well, that is you putting "YOUR" narrative into my mouth. Against with your false conclusions.
Frost took a team that was 0-11 and two years later undefeated... you saying Mullen did the same? That is what you are implying.
Comparing being a part of a National Title team in a good situation, to Starkeville, really?
As far as Mullen knowing the potential of Florida, what is this the 1980's... everyone knows the potential of Florida, that hasn't been Florida's issue. It's an AD schitting the bed in hiring coaches.
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I have shown you 14 + wins Mullen had versus SEC teams with superior resources and facilities. He did not consistently beat Bama (where most of Mullen's losses came from)but neither did anyone else.
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Franklin upset others but Never upset Mullen.
Not on hiring Meyer who introduced Mullen to UF. The discussion was on why Mullen would wait. He would wait for the potential you just admitted UF has.
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Well at least we can agree on that.
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Kirby being an assistant coach (making less than head coach Mullen) shows why someone would wait for a potential great job. Mullen was just making more as he waited and getting more head coach experience. Money talks.
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Your argument is the Mullen did more with less, if he did such a good job why did it take 9 years as a head coach to get an upgraded job. Do you not think the Texas job which has been open twice in his tenure is as good? There have been other jobs that were good jobs opened up in that time... it's a bad example on your end.
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So you have shown he one 1.5 games a year against teams you determine are better resources, how many did he lose per year against teams with worse resources? In year 9 how did he lose to South Alabama.
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The Texas people picked wrong on Strong. Then they picked a Texas coach who was doing extremely well which can help with Texas recruiting.
Mullen did do more with less than any MSU coach before him.
Same reason it took Kirby a while to wait for a team he had a previous relationship with could break the tie to move. Kirby got offers all the time. Mullen was making good money at MSU with little firing risk as he gained head coach experience. Just like Spurrier said you should leave after 10 years maybe Mullen felt that way after 9 years. Spurrier moved up to the NFL and Mullen moved up to UF where he has a better shot of winning national championships like Kirby does at UGA. Mullen and Kirby both knew they could adapt quickly to UF and UGA because they had a history and relationships there.
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Not many losses to weak teams.
No body is perfect. Saban had weak losses at Michigan State. That turned out alright.
MSU was smaller than most of its SEC competition so it was good when he beat them.
- Kentucky, 8-1
- Tennessee, 1-0
- Arkansas, 5-4
- Georgia, 1-2
- Florida, 1-1
- Auburn, 3-6
- Texas A&M, 3-3
- LSU, 2-7
- South Carolina, 1-2
- Alabama, 0-9
- Mississippi 5-4
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I disagree. Yes, Vandy has historically been the weakest program in the conference and MSU is a bigger, stronger program with more support. But, Vandy relative to the SECe during Franklin’s tenure and MSU in the SECw during Mullen’s is far more comparable.
While Franklin is squaring off against Muschamp & McElwain, Dooley & Jones, and fading Richt in a weakened east, Mullen is playing dominant Bama, LSU, AU, A&M and cheating Freeze. There’s no comparison. The east barely won any games against the west for huge stretches of time in there.
Franklin is a great coach and has shown it at PSU. Mullen has yet to prove it - but the histories do compare well.
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How many losses vs teams with equal or worse facilities? I count at least 11
S. ALA.
Vandy
Houston
GTx2
BYU
Arkx4
Northwestern
Mullens an average coach.
