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Oceangate sub implodes on way to Titanic
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agreed... certainly money better well spent that the AF taking pictures off the ramp of a C-130 of a bunch of fighters slow assing it behind them...
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do you know how hard it is for a Herky bird to fly that fast?agreed... certainly money better well spent that the AF taking pictures off the ramp of a C-130 of a bunch of fighters slow assing it behind them...
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You probably shouldn't be reading too many of your own post as you age then....
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You do realize that as lofty as they may be, our goals must also be realistic, right?
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A lot of people don't realize that the federal budget *includes* stuff like this already built-in.
Let's say a fighter pilot needs to maintain 100 hours of flight time (no idea the actual number, just throwing out a random figure)--that number is bought & paid for whether or not the fighter pilot uses it or injures his hand in a masturbating accident and is off of flight duty for 5 months.
It's no different with units like the Coast Guard or Natl Guard that are expected to rapidly deploy in emergencies: it's already baked into their annual operating budget.
I'm sure the units themselves were under no illusions that this was a recovery mission; but you deploy on a moment's notice anyway to show the public that we can and to prepare for the time when we might actually have the possibility of a rescue and would need to use these skills.
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It really is that simple: you don't want to disclose things that are best kept secret.
People might know generally about SOSUS, but actionable data? Probably not.
Sound travels at a certain speed...and depending on how long it took before we noticed it can reveal clues about the location of the sensors or response times of the software in filtering out background noise, etc. Stuff that is irrelevant to Joe Public, but highly relevant to our adversaries.
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I am aware of that. My wife's grandfather was a pilot trainer in the military. HE has wonderful stories about the places he would fly to in order to stay current.
The sub is a real life scenario where they can get more "training."
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Oh, I think I know what you mean...
I've posted several times about an Army friend of mine from Germany who was from Nashville. His dad was a COL in the TNARNG and commanded the C-130 squadron in Nashville. To "stay current" in the big budget years of the mid to late 80's, they'd do things like throw their golf clubs in the back and fly to Phoenix to play a round, or "hop" down to New Orleans and pick up some shrimp.
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The way the budget process works drives some silly stuff too. I was the Wing Bomber Scheduler and every year we received so many flight hours for training. It was illegal (literally could get the Wing Commander fired) for flying more than the allocation and if you flew less, your flying hour budget was cut for the next year. So, on the last day of the fiscal year, every bomber flew there assigned training missions and landed about 1700. Then we in the scheduling shop would add up all the logged hours (usually planned to be 2 or 3 hours short of the budget) and determine to the exact tenth of an hour how long the last sortie of the year (sitting at the end of the runway ready to take off) needed to log. We would radio the correct sortie duration to the crew, they would launch and fly transition work (touch and gos, low approaches, etc.) and land with exactly that flight time. You can imagine the pitfalls of trusting a flight crew to be that precise.
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