SOURCES: Coaching rumors, Part II

[soflagator]

[QUOTE='78;n110502]I'm not sure any of these big names is going to come. I think we need to be ready for a "second tier" choice, which is not so much synonymous with second choice as it is more risk because less is known. Foley loves value and this is where you find it. McElwain's an interesting candidate. He's run a solid program, knows how to play call, knows the SEC and is earning 1.5 million. He'd come at a relatively bargain price. [/QUOTE]

Just throwing out some of the names that he helped develop at Alabama would be huge in recruiting. He undoubtedly understands the importance of defense given his work under Saban. He'd be a solid hire, no question.

 

[GatorBenji]

I really hope these Brian Kelly rumors are true. Him and Stoops are probably tops on my list if we are talking college coaches and not the pro guys

 

[GatorBenji]

I wish I could agree, but I think this is still a top job and I think we will land a top coach already out there. Everything is pointing to Stoops. Many believe this is the time he would listen and it could happen. I am thinking Harbaugh, Stoops, Freeze, or even Malzahn might take the bite, if offered. We have NFL type money, recruiting is in your back yard, and the ability to play for a conference and national championship every year. Not many programs you can do that. Not to mention, the SEC East is wide open and ripe for picking while the SEC West picks each other off and out of the running.

I don't think Florida will have to settle for a "second tier" hire, I mean come on its UF, recruiting heaven and the SEC. Not every big time coach is gonna pass up that opportunity. And we are also working on that indoor facility as well

 

[78]

Just throwing out some of the names that he helped develop at Alabama would be huge in recruiting. He undoubtedly understands the importance of defense given his work under Saban. He'd be a solid hire, no question.

He strikes me as the safest under the radar guy out there at the moment.

 

[TheDouglas78]

[QUOTE='78;n110502]I'm not sure any of these big names is going to come. I think we need to be ready for a "second tier" choice, which is not so much synonymous with second choice as it is more risk because less is known. Foley loves value and this is where you find it. McElwain's an interesting candidate. He's run a solid program, knows how to play call, knows the SEC and is earning 1.5 million. He'd come at a relatively bargain price. [/QUOTE]


There is a lot of truth to this post, more than a lot of people realize. This wouldn't to be unsimilar to when we hired a risk from Duke in 1989 or a guy who had never coached big time football from Utah in 2004.

 

[soflagator]

[QUOTE='78;n110511]

Relax. I'm not saying that's the eventual outcome. I'm simply keeping an open mind to all possibilities. Sure we can afford more, but what's the sense in spending more unless you get someone who's really worth it? I like the idea of a proven someone like Stoops, but let's be honest. His upside is directly proportional to what he can do to leverage recruiting in Florida. Coachingwise? We already know who we're getting with Stoops. I guess I'm evolving in my thinking. I've been reading a lot about McElwain and like what I see. And he's not a coordinator.[/QUOTE]

In addition to that, just because we landed someone while they're still a bargain, doesn't mean that they wouldn't have ended up being crazy expensive down the line. How much less would we have had to offer Meyer if we got him straight from Bowling Green? And even still, many including myself didn't know a whole lot about him. Same concept. Waiting until they're the name that everyone wants, makes no sense. If he's a worthy candidate, he should be offered.

 

[soflagator]

There is a lot of truth to this post, more than a lot of people realize. This wouldn't to be unsimilar to when we hired a risk from Duke in 1989 or a guy who had never coached big time football from Utah in 2004.

Our posts are virtually identical. Almost bizarre. Great minds.

 

[G8RNGA]

[QUOTE='78;n110518]

He strikes me as the safest under the radar guy out there at the moment. [/QUOTE]

I agree and think he'll be more of a plan B hire, but stranger things have happened and Foley is anything but predictable! I think he would be a good hire.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Our posts are virtually identical. Almost bizarre. Great minds.

 

[78]

Sometimes you get what you pay for.



" Jim McElwain hasn't proven enough to be the savior of a Power 5 conference program.
Bovada.lv, an online casino and sports book, offered a prop bet Monday morning on who will become the next head coach at Florida following the Gators' Will Muschamp stepping down at the end of the season.
CSU's McElwain ranked No. 2 on the list and opened with 9-to-2 odds of taking over at The Swamp. Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy, whose team will likely miss a bowl for the first time in eight seasons, was the early favorite at 4-to-1."

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/csu/football/2014/11/17/jim-mcelwain-florida/19190495/

Interesting that you use Bovada to prop the notion that McElwain's not worth hiring but you panned me earlier for suggesting Foley might be looking at Gundy, who's Bovada's top choice. Which one's it going to be?

 

[soflagator]

Sometimes you get what you pay for.



" Jim McElwain hasn't proven enough to be the savior of a Power 5 conference program.
Bovada.lv, an online casino and sports book, offered a prop bet Monday morning on who will become the next head coach at Florida following the Gators' Will Muschamp stepping down at the end of the season.
CSU's McElwain ranked No. 2 on the list and opened with 9-to-2 odds of taking over at The Swamp. Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy, whose team will likely miss a bowl for the first time in eight seasons, was the early favorite at 4-to-1."

http://www.coloradoan.com/story/sports/csu/football/2014/11/17/jim-mcelwain-florida/19190495/

I don't think people really get what UF brings to the table. It's not tennessee. It has about as many built-in advantages as a school can provide. Just look at Muschamp. Probably the worst HC in the past 40 years, supposedly had this tremendous rebuild project, and will likely leave with a 28-21 record. Similar story with Zook. We don't need a savior. We need a competent head coach who can successfully tap into the wealth of talent within a few hundred miles, and follow a blue-print that was set out for over 20 years.

 

[gardnerwebbgator]

I'd rather have McElwain than Gundy if those are the final two. If they are, it is like we are settling for a second-tier risk again.

 

[soflagator]

I'd rather have McElwain than Gundy if those are the final two. If they are, it is like we are settling for a second-tier risk again.

When did we do it initially?

 

[78]

I don't think people really get what UF brings to the table. It's not tennessee. It has about as many built-in advantages as a school can provide. Just look at Muschamp. Probably the worst HC in the past 40 years, supposedly had this tremendous rebuild project, and will likely leave with a 28-21 record. Similar story with Zook. We don't need a savior. We need a competent head coach who can successfully tap into the wealth of talent within a few hundred miles, and follow a blue-print that was set out for over 20 years.

It also comes back to what we've been talking about, appropriate recruiting. Muschamp went wholly against the grain. The new guy would be well advised to exploit the state for what it does best, produce skilled position players.

 

[LagoonGator68]

Pay Jim Harbaugh whatever it takes and reap the rewards many times over.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

I really hope these Brian Kelly rumors are true.

I think those brian kelly rumors started right here on this board, while we were throwing on a wall to see if it stuck

 

[The Original DC]

Please stop it with the Gundy talk. He is Muschamp-The Sequel. Have you looked at his record? Do you really want to hire somebody who has lost their last 6 games?.

Gundy is a loss away from being Muschamped by his current employer, why on earth he's even being mentioned as a UF candidate is beyond me.

Do people not realize Gundy is currently on his own "hot seat?" Hell, throw Brady Hoke in the mix too.

 

[soflagator]

[QUOTE='78;n110535]
It also comes back to what we've been talking about, appropriate recruiting. Muschamp went wholly against the grain. The new guy would be well advised to exploit the state for what it does best, produce skilled position players.[/QUOTE]


Developed Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, several OL, en route to winning 2 NC's. Yeah, I think he could make an adequate pitch.

 

[soflagator]

I think those brian kelly rumors started right here on this board, while we were throwing on a wall to see if it stuck

It's actually running pretty rampant on Rivals mainboard as well. I don't see it happening, but a few paysite articles have mentioned him, and I think the speculation took off from there.