The National Signing Day Thread

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This is more hilarious than you fvkktards talking about what a guru McElstain was, when anyone who had actually watched Bammer football should have known what is limited playbook was, power runs and screens passes, play action short stuff.

I know you were in pre school when Mullinz was here, but not all of is were. He runs Notre Dame's triple option. End of story. It isnt even up for debate.

I know you get excited about those dozen shovel passes he will throw out
Yeah, I know, two years in the past fifteen he threw the ball a little.... that is exactly the point.
If you are excited bc he averaged approx the same passing yards as Brantley/Trey (200 ish yards) then good for you.

And it is the single wing, not the wing t. I know you have no clue what either is.

Here is Urban talking about it:

MEYER: Part of it is single wing, yeah. I would say there's a spread element and a single-wing element. .....One: you run a single-wing offense, which means you spread a guy out so that [extra defender] has to go cover him...."

https://smartfootball.blogspot.com/2009/06/urban-meyer-q-on-his-offense.html?m=1


Stick to Nickelback.
Dude. You can visually ****ing watch the fact mullen does pass the ball. There are literal stats to back that up and VIDEO evidence. You can bitch like a dumbass all day long about the style of offense and the element and base of it, doesnt change the fact there are passing elements to it as well. 4 years at florida and a 9 year sample size at MSU where you act like he didnt throw the ball once he still averaged 3100 passing yards a season. Idgaf how he gets them, its there. Denying fact is becoming popular these days i guess
 
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He will be between 50th and 100th in passing. 200-260 yards a game. I get it. You have really low standards. Brantleyville. Thats what passes for competence with you.
 

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Every single time...no matter distance. Could be 3rd and 108 and we'd run the play action pass

Not to mention that we would often fake the hand-off to a phantom running back that was nowhere in the area.
 

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He will be between 50th and 100th in passing. 200-260 yards a game. I get it. You have really low standards. Brantleyville. Thats what passes for competence with you.
If thats what it takes to win im all for it.

Bama averaged 226 passing yards a game over the last 4 seasons. Breaking the 275 a game barrier in only one season. This season they barely averaged 190 ypg. Average total passing? 45th in the country.

Ohio State averaged 227. Good for 54th in the country average.

Clemson 280. Average 22nd in the country.

Only 3 teams to win the playoff title two of them average right around what id expect from Mullens passing offense

Mullens passing offense over the last 4 years at MSU: 56th in the country. Two top 25 finishes.

Mullens 4 year stint at UF? An average of 34th in the country in passing O.


Theres not a single stat on planet earth that states Dan Mullens offense isnt a balanced attack that consistently averages around the same mark as elite contenders.
 

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If thats what it takes to win im all for it.

Bama averaged 226 passing yards a game over the last 4 seasons. Breaking the 275 a game barrier in only one season. This season they barely averaged 190 ypg. Average total passing? 45th in the country.

Ohio State averaged 227. Good for 54th in the country average.

Clemson 280. Average 22nd in the country.

Only 3 teams to win the playoff title two of them average right around what id expect from Mullens passing offense

Mullens passing offense over the last 4 years at MSU: 56th in the country. Two top 25 finishes.

Mullens 4 year stint at UF? An average of 34th in the country in passing O.


Theres not a single stat on planet earth that states Dan Mullens offense isnt a balanced attack that consistently averages around the same mark as elite contenders.
PUMP IT, BROTHER!!!!

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I seem to recall how even OBC was accused of passing all the time....when he in fact ran a very balanced run/pass ratio.. I guess people see what they want to see.
 

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I seem to recall how even OBC was accused of passing all the time....when he in fact ran a very balanced run/pass ratio.. I guess people see what they want to see.
Let’s be fair though. The OBC would starting running out the clock in the 3rd quarter in a lot of games
 

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Flase premise. Randy Moss, LeGarrett Blount, Aaron Hernandez and hundreds of other are neither character nor brains.

What he does is looks for good fits among journeymen and doesnt much like drafting kids, especially overpriced, unproven first rounders.
Looks like he looks for 3* college players. You saw the other thread on the star ratings of super bowl starters?
 

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This came out of nowhere, he was a huge Tenn lean early on:

Florida recruiting: Gators in contention for tight end Glenn Beal

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-recruiting-contention-glenn-beal

Florida coach Dan Mullen and running backs coach Greg Knox traveled to New Orleans on Tuesday to visit with Glenn Beal.

The 3-star tight end from John Curtis High School was offered by Mullen in late November and plans to officially visit Florida on Feb. 2.

The Gators have three tight ends returning in C’yontai Lewis, Moral Stephens and Kemore Gamble. They also have a pair of incoming recruits in Kyle Pitts and Dante Lang, both of whom signed last month.

With five players at the position, why the interest in Beal?

First of all, Beal is the real deal. Don’t let his 3-star rating fool you.

At 6-foot-5, 265 pounds, he is a massive in-line tight end prospect who has college-ready size and can create mismatches. Beal has a different skill set than Florida’s current players at the position.

Lewis and Stephens are the only ones with playing experience and both had little production last season. Lewis caught 7 passes for 72 yards and Stephens finished with 6 receptions for 141 yards.

Moreover, Lang could potentially line up on the other side of the ball. He was primarily a defensive end in high school and began playing tight end at the request of Florida assistant coach Ja’Juan Seider.

“Me and his head coach [Eric Davis] are good friends,” Seider told FloridaGators.comafter the early signing period. “[Lang] was a kid that was playing D-end and I was like, ‘Eric, how about making this kid play a little tight end for us?’ Just to be able to recruit him on both sides of the ball. If he can’t fit at D-end, well, he can fit at tight end. The kid made a smooth transition.”

Beal has officially visited Tennessee, Texas A&M and Ole Miss. He will take a trip to Alabama this weekend before giving the Gators his final visit. He plans to announce on National Signing Day.
 

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If thats what it takes to win im all for it.

Bama averaged 226 passing yards a game over the last 4 seasons. Breaking the 275 a game barrier in only one season. This season they barely averaged 190 ypg. Average total passing? 45th in the country.

Ohio State averaged 227. Good for 54th in the country average.

Clemson 280. Average 22nd in the country.

Only 3 teams to win the playoff title two of them average right around what id expect from Mullens passing offense

Mullens passing offense over the last 4 years at MSU: 56th in the country. Two top 25 finishes.

Mullens 4 year stint at UF? An average of 34th in the country in passing O.


Theres not a single stat on planet earth that states Dan Mullens offense isnt a balanced attack that consistently averages around the same mark as elite contenders.

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If thats what it takes to win im all for it.

Bama averaged 226 passing yards a game over the last 4 seasons. Breaking the 275 a game barrier in only one season. This season they barely averaged 190 ypg. Average total passing? 45th in the country.

Ohio State averaged 227. Good for 54th in the country average.

Clemson 280. Average 22nd in the country.

Only 3 teams to win the playoff title two of them average right around what id expect from Mullens passing offense

Mullens passing offense over the last 4 years at MSU: 56th in the country. Two top 25 finishes.

Mullens 4 year stint at UF? An average of 34th in the country in passing O.


Theres not a single stat on planet earth that states Dan Mullens offense isnt a balanced attack that consistently averages around the same mark as elite contenders.
You realize he’s just f*cking with you right?
 

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This came out of nowhere, he was a huge Tenn lean early on:

Florida recruiting: Gators in contention for tight end Glenn Beal

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-recruiting-contention-glenn-beal

Florida coach Dan Mullen and running backs coach Greg Knox traveled to New Orleans on Tuesday to visit with Glenn Beal.

The 3-star tight end from John Curtis High School was offered by Mullen in late November and plans to officially visit Florida on Feb. 2.

Yes please! :lmao2:


 

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Dan Mullen’s transitional recruiting class needs proper expectations

https://www.gatorcountry.com/featur...l-recruiting-class-needs-proper-expectations/

We’re a few weeks away from Dan Mullen finalizing his first recruiting class as Florida Gators head football coach. As I write this, he has 13 players signed with two more committed. UF will sign roughly just under the max of 25 players in the class, which means almost ten more spots are open if offensive line prospect Richard Gouraige and wide receiver Justin Watkins keep their commitments and sign.

Given that we don’t even know who a big chunk of the class will be yet, it’s obviously too early to judge the result. It always takes years to evaluate any class, for that matter. However, it is important to temper your expectations because it’s a transitional class.

The first class that a head coach signs tends to be a crapshoot for a number of reasons. He may not know the existing commits all that well, and he has to rush to fill up spots with players he may not have a long relationship with.

To wit, here are how the last three transitional classes in Gainesville have turned out. I’m dividing up the players into four categories: those who became solid starters for at least a year, non-starters who played big roles anyway, those who made little impact, and those whose Gator careers ended early for reasons other than graduation or going pro.

Jim McElwain: 2015
  • Starters: Martez Ivey, Cece Jefferson, Jordan Scarlett, Antonio Callaway, Jabari Zuniga
  • Contributors: Tyler Jordan, Kylan Johnson, Keivonnis Davis, Frederick Johnson, Luke Ancrum
  • Marginal Role: Nick Buchanan, Rayshad Jackson
  • Transfers/Gone: Jordan Cronkrite, Chris Williamson, Daniel Imatorbhebhe, Brandon Sandifer, Camrin Knight, Kalif Jackson, Richerd Desir-Jones, Andrew Ivie (medical), D’Anfernee McGriff (didn’t qualify)
This isn’t all that bad as far as transitional classes go, though there are still more guys in the latter two categories (11) than in the starter and contributor categories (10). Those five starters have been high quality starters — though of course two of them missed last year due to poor off-the-field judgment.

The only one of the washouts that seems right now to be a loss is Imatorbhebhe, who looked promising as a tight end for USC in 2016 before injuries cost him much of 2017. Cronkrite will have a chance to show off at USF in 2018, though Florida is pretty set at running back looking forward.

There still is time for some of the marginal characters to move into the Transfer/Gone category; it seems more likely that they’d do that than climb up to become contributors. This class was merely okay, not great.

Will Muschamp: 2011
  • Starters: Jeff Driskel, Marcus Roberson, Jabari Gorman, Loucheiz Purifoy, Trip Thurman, Clay Burton, Hunter Joyer, Kyle Christy
  • Contributors: Valdez Showers, Tevin Westbrook
  • Marginal Role: None
  • Transfers/Gone: A.C. Leonard, Mike Blakely, Jacoby Brissett, Ja’Juan Story, Javares McRoy, Graham Stewart, Pop Saunders, Chris Johnson, Tommy Jordan (medical)
I included Driskel in the Starters category even though he eventually transferred; as a multi-year starter in Gainesville, it really seemed more fitting to have him there.

Muschamp had the wind of the Meyer recruiting regime at his back, but it was a benefit as well as a detriment. You can see it in how this class was almost entirely guys who were starters or transfers. Many players found their way to the top line of the depth chart. However, several of the eventual transfers signed for someone they didn’t initially commit to and ended up not liking who they actually played for.

The transfers were the big problem here, particularly on offense. Blakely and McRoy transferred months after signing. Story left after a year of not playing, while Leonard also redshirted and then left after an offseason arrest. Brissett took off as well after losing out to Driskel two years in a row. UF never had enough good offensive players under Muschamp, and this class’s offensive half slowly melting away was a big part of that.

Urban Meyer: 2005
  • Starters: Ryan Stamper, David Nelson, Louis Murphy, Kestahn Moore, Jonathan Phillips
  • Contributors: Dorian Munroe
  • Marginal Role: None
  • Transfers/Gone: Avery Atkins, Josh Portis, Nyan Boateng, Jon Demps, Eddie Haupt (medical), Eric Sledge, Brian Ellis (didn’t qualify), Darryl Gresham, Ronnie Wilson, Simon Codrington (medical), Kalvin Baker
Want to know how a coach wins a national title in his second and fourth years but has a terribly young team that loses four games in his third? Here’s why.

Meyer’s 2005 class was small to begin with, and over half of it ended up washing out for one reason or another. Many of them had memorable stories too, from the tragedy of Atkins to Demps getting in trouble for throwing a sandwich at a Jimmy Johns employee to Meyer sticking his neck out for — and ultimately getting burned by — Wilson. Almost a decade ago, I ran through the fate of this class player-by-player if you want to see all the details.

Even among the guys who made positive impacts, some were muted. Nelson never caught as much as 300 yards in a season, while Moore was eventually passed up by guys from later classes. Stamper and Phillips needed years to break the lineup; Munroe looked promising early but fell off as injuries derailed his career.

Dan Mullen: 2018
It should come as no surprise that the above classes weren’t major program changers. Muschamp’s was the only one that was made up of more than 50% blue chip (4-star or 5-star) players, and even then, six of the 11 blue chips were gone before the 2013 season began (Leonard, Blakely, Brissett, Story, McRoy, and Stewart).

Mullen’s 15 combined signees and commits right now consist of nine 4-stars and six 3-stars. Among the non-blue chippers are a kicker, a tight end, and two offensive linemen, positions where it’s more routine than others to find value at the 3-star level.

I know a lot of people don’t like to look at star ratings, as they’re just opinions of various scouts. However, recruiting rankings do hold up overall. Former 5-star recruits are more likely to become All-Americans than 4-stars, which are substantially more likely to become All-Americans than 3-stars, which are vastly more likely to become All-Americans than 2-stars.

So, it matters that Mullen so far is building a class that rates better than McElwain’s and Meyer’s underwhelming transitional classes. If he is able to sign more blue chips than non-blue chips as he completes the class, he’ll put himself ahead of two of his recent predecessors.

There already has been a spot of attrition, with December signee Randy Russell’s career being over now due to a heart condition. As you can see above, attrition is a huge concern with transitional classes. A large part of how the 2018 haul will be judged will come down to how many of the players finish their careers in Gainesville.

It’s worth remembering that transitional classes don’t have to be mediocre or worse. Ron Zook’s transitional 2002 class included the likes of Ciatrick Fason, DeShawn Wynn, Randy Hand, Jemalle Cornelius, Reggie Lewis, Ray McDonald, Brian Crum, and Jermaine and Tremaine McCollum. Fason was a 1,000-yard rusher, Hand was a multi-year starter, and the rest made memorable contributions to the 2006 national championship effort.

For what it’s worth, Mullen did a great job developing his 2009 transitional class at Mississippi State. It ended up producing a number of NFL players in Fletcher Cox, Pernell McPhee, Gabe Jackson, Darius Slay, Josh Boyd, Johnthan Banks, Chris White, and Cameron Lawrence, plus All-SEC selections Chad Bumphis, LaDarius Perkins, and Nickoe Whitley.

If Mullen can close well with mostly blue-chip prospects and can develop the class like he did his first in Starkville, Florida will be in great shape going forward. Both are big ifs, though, and you especially shouldn’t count on the latter. Transitional classes are tough to get right, and by no means is there any way to guarantee success.
 

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