Gator Basketball Todd Golden new Florida Men's Basketball Coach; hires Taurean Green

[MJMGator]

Green is a gator legend and screw you if you don't agree

Truth! The fuching floor general on the ONLY team to EVER win back to back titles with the same starting five. Case closed.

 

[G. Gordon Gator]

@Bushmaster is right, shooting-wise Taurean was the one who was kind of along for the ride. He definitely benefitted from open looks due to all four of the others being such scoring threats. But he was the PG, and with his floor leadership all five starters on that team, including him, ended up with over 1,000 career points each. That's unbelievable.

Best NCAA basketball team in history, bar none. In fact it was the most balanced, complementary, complete team I've ever seen in any sport, at any level. They don't get talked about enough.

Anyway Taurean was not signed to be a player so never mind his shooting skills. PGs make the best coaches and he has learned from the best. Hopefully Golden is someone he can learn more from, and in turn maybe Tarurean will help Golden recruit. Only downside I see is that the two of them may keep getting their monogrammed towels mixed up.

 

[rogdochar]

Taurean Green represents Gator glory. His father's lifetime reputation might involve recruiting connections among young hero worshippers in other areas.? (long-shot)
Another long shot = Green has connections to European basketball.?? Let's face it: he's a Gator great & has a ESPN special youngsters could pull up.

 

[stephenPE]

TG knew when to take a shot and usually made them in clutch situations. He was cold out there and rarely IF EVER show much emotion. Perfect for a PG. Joakim had the passion and loud leadership skill. The only time I saw TG lose it was the last seconds of the first nattie when he danced and threw the ball straight up. Loved that kid. He was the perfect piece to that fantastic puzzle.

 

[LoyalGatorFan]

For all my political buddies on here, I personally wanted us to hire an assistant from Kansas but whatever

 

[rogdochar]

Golden needs to get us a 7-footer with skills ... overdue.

 

[gatorev12]

That's not how it works.

TG was a good shooter and made a bunch of big time clutch baskets for us when we really needed them.

Right; I'm not sure how saying "his career stats in the NBA" prove that he was a below-average shooter at the college level. While he was here, he was a 1000 pt scorer over 3 seasons and while his Jr. Year was clearly the best, he made a number of key contributions every year he was here (along with being an 85% FT shooter).

I would never categorize Green as an elite shooting talent; but saying he was below-average at this level is a stretch.

 

[rogdochar]

Green was a major component of Florida's natty team - one of college basketball's greatest.

 

[Sec14Gator]

That's not how it works.

TG was a good shooter and made a bunch of big time clutch baskets for us when we really needed them.

Exactly. He was a career 39% shooter, shooting over 40% his junior year (over 200 shots). Those are elite/near elite #'s. He happened to play with an absolute sniper in Humphrey, who shot an insane 44.4% and 46% his senior year when Green was hitting over 40%.

For context, Green's 3pt % would rank him 4th nationally among team 3 pt % for this past season or top 35 of all shooters in the country this past season. Humphrey's best season would put him at #1 for this season.

Humphrey is top 25 all time NCAA 3 pt %. If he had that 45.9% FG rate his whole career, he'd be #1.

THAT is why Green shot less - he was a true PG got the ball to the best available option the majority of the time. With Horford, Brewer and Humphrey as offensive weapons, Green got less total shots than he would have with a different team. He and Humphrey also benefited from some more open looks than their peers.

 

[GatorBart]

Truth! The fuching floor general on the ONLY team to EVER win back to back titles with the same starting five. Case closed.

Dude was cold blooded. And likely stoned.

 

[G. Gordon Gator]

You guys are funny. Taurean was a great college player, but the other four starters were more naturally gifted than him. Relatively speaking that's not a knock on him because the fact is, all five of them were supremely talented. But out of the five, SOMEBODY had to be the least talented one. If it wasn't Taurean then which one of them was it?

Conversely, FOR THAT REASON, he may have the most coaching potential of any of those five. Taurean's limitations as a player ultimately came to light when he tried to make the transition to the NBA, but in college he ran the floor masterfully, and he played at a level above his natural ability due to his work ethic and his basketball IQ. That's exactly what you want in a coach. Maybe he will become the heir apparent to Nerdy McDorknuts.

 

[Bushmaster]

You MFers should learn to read what is written instead of what you think is written.

I said he was a below average shooter. So you dickheads want to bring up average team shooting statistics for entire teams this year that include every player on the team and then claim he wasn't a below average shooter by comparing that to his best year ever. Don't compare his 3 pt% to Shaq and say he was better. No ****. Compare his shooting to other guards, not team statistics.

I didn't say he sucked. He was a total badass at what he was asked to do, which was win a NCAAC and then do it again. He drove that team like a baller. Smartest guy on the court. Likely the best true PG in the country those two years. I think he is a great hire and said so.

I am going to post Green was a below average shooter over on Gator Country. If this statement triggered you homos this bad, it will blow up that site.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

 

[Sec14Gator]

You MFers should learn to read what is written instead of what you think is written.

I said he was a below average shooter. So you dickheads want to bring up average team shooting statistics for entire teams this year that include every player on the team and then claim he wasn't a below average shooter by comparing that to his best year ever. Don't compare his 3 pt% to Shaq and say he was better. No ****. Compare his shooting to other guards, not team statistics.

I read what you wrote. It is statistically wrong and you're doubling down on it. Brilliant.

In his only two seasons of significant playing time (with over 200 attempts, he shot 38.4% and 40.6%). It's not below average for an NCAA shooting guard and certainly not below average for a PG. Even with his average freshman season, his career rate is 38.9%.

The team averages reflect teams optimizing shots by their best shooters (so the theoretical Shaq's 2-3 attempts on the season barely impact the %). Regardless, it actually demonstrates "average" shooting. Taurean was well above average. Just because the other guys were higher offensive options, does not make your nonsense accurate. Though, for that matter, his 3 pt shots per game was barely lower than Humphrey and overall offensive usage rate was overall higher than Humphrey.

Please stop or use google. The pride in the Gators isn't making us point out you're wrong. You are just wrong no matter where on the internet you write that Taurean Green was a below average shooter.

 

[Towels 'N Sporks]

Just gonna leave something here but not gonna argue with anybody...


What is a good 3-point percentage? (With Examples) | thatsportlife.com.



From the article "A good 3-point percentage in college basketball is above 35% and an elite percentage is anything over 40%."

 

[Bushmaster]

I read what you wrote. It is statistically wrong and you're doubling down on it. Brilliant.

In his only two seasons of significant playing time (with over 200 attempts, he shot 38.4% and 40.6%). It's not below average for an NCAA shooting guard and certainly not below average for a PG. Even with his average freshman season, his career rate is 38.9%.

The team averages reflect teams optimizing shots by their best shooters (so the theoretical Shaq's 2-3 attempts on the season barely impact the %). Regardless, it actually demonstrates "average" shooting. Taurean was well above average. Just because the other guys were higher offensive options, does not make your nonsense accurate. Though, for that matter, his 3 pt shots per game was barely lower than Humphrey and overall offensive usage rate was overall higher than Humphrey.

Please stop or use google. The pride in the Gators isn't making us point out you're wrong. You are just wrong no matter where on the internet you write that Taurean Green was a below average shooter.

You are drunk. His NBA stats that I quoted initially, have him WAY below 30%. Then someone wants to chime in that he didn't get many shots. OK. Why didn't he get many shots? Because he was a below average shooter, wasn't tall/quick enough to get more playing time. Its not hard to see. What he did in the NBA doesn't tarnish one thing he did at UF. Same goes for Danny and Tim. Gator greats.

 

[Bushmaster]

Just gonna leave something here but not gonna argue with anybody...


What is a good 3-point percentage? (With Examples) | thatsportlife.com.



From the article "A good 3-point percentage in college basketball is above 35% and an elite percentage is anything over 40%."

The sentence before the one you quoted:

Statistics show that for NBA basketball players, a 3-point percentage (3pt%) above 35% is good and a 3pt% above 40% is considered to be elite.

Green was 28% from the field in the NBA and 18.2% from 3 pt range.

 

[Sec14Gator]

is NBA stats that I quoted initially, have him WAY below 30%

Statistics show that for NBA basketball players, a 3-point percentage (3pt%) above 35% is good and a 3pt% above 40% is considered to be elite.

Green was 28% from the field in the NBA and 18.2% from 3 pt range.

First, this is a discussion of a Gator player. Who give a flying Fuchs about the NBA stats. Second, you will likely get little argument that Green was too small and slow to have an NBA career or to get off a clean shot in the NBA.

BUT, wow does your statistical analysis seem utterly ridiculous when you are citing to 11 TOTAL NBA SHOTS. That's it. You're entire analysis posits we should determine him to be a "below average shooter," as the college player he was, because of 11 shots versus the 478 he took in a Florida Gator uniform in incredibly high stakes/stress games.

As for the article, nice selective quote, but the article also notes:

"In college basketball a good three-point percentage is 35% or above. This might be a surprising statistic because it’s very similar to the NBA shooting numbers.

This is because the college three-point line is a little bit shorter than the NBA three-point line making it a little easier to shoot for a higher percentage. The competition isn’t as competitive as well.

Shooters that are able to make their 3’s 40% or more throughout a game or a season are considered to be elite three-point shooters in college."

For comparison, Lee Humphrey went 1-5 against Stetson and 1-6 in the first game against Kentucky in 06-07. Damn. That is the same as Taurean's NBA career. Lee was probably below average too or using limited statistics for a different league is silly. Yep, one of those two.

 

[Bushmaster]

I went to ESPN, pulled the top 100 players stat wise for this year, stripped out all the players except guards, which left 65 players, and averaged the FG%, 3 pt %, and FT%.

Their average is

45.112 / 34.409 / 79.513

Greene CAREER average is

40.1 / 38.97 / 85.7

Of those 65 guards, 61 shot better from the floor than Greene.

Of those 65 guards, 14 shot better from 3 pt range than Greene.

Of those 65 guards, 17 shot better from free throw line than Greene.


PDF attached.

 

[oxrageous]

I had no idea Green got 11 shots in the NBA. That's 11 more than I thought.