Were Mac's critics right?

[oxking]

See why do you have go and call me names and hurt my feelings? I could say the same about your position. Help me see that my position is so out of touch with reality by giving me an example of other programs that have fired a coach after two seasons of a winning record because "they just didn't see it going right". Heck Texas held on to Strong after two years of losing and middling recruiting.

You know, I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings. And Hee Haw isn't going to be fired. And Strong was a disaster at Texas as was the Chump at Florida. It's not going to happen but that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. He's going to get another year and probably two so that he can bury us real deep, maybe even deeper than the Chump. And yes, bringing those losers AA and Luke into the program was bad enough but playing AA after he's demonstrated that, as, I will quote Durty here, he "couldn't hit the water in a row boat" is patently idiotic and all the other adjectives used before. Hells, bells, Trask showed him up in the spring game and AA is old enough to be his father.

 

[oxking]

I was not questioning you on definition but on when/where intransigent. Was it going with Harris and trying nothing new as the offense imploded last year? Was it failling to keep Grier in the fold. Was it his failure to get on of the true frosh ready, this year in case both QBs were injured or not ready?

Some have argued for starting a true Frosh in the bowl game. Better would have been to get a true frosh ready and some experience as soon Del Rio was hurt the first time. The reasoning is much the same, both Trask and Franks are unlikely to stay 5 years, etc. UF had a 38 point lead on UK heading into the 4th quarter so one of the Frosh QBs could have played the entire quarter and gotten experience.

I guess really it could be all of those instances and after you decided the first time each additional instance reenforces your view. I guess I pretty much agree.

I knew you know the word, just giving you the business. The answer is yes, yes, yes, to everything you suggest. You betcha. I do like the word intransigence though, it makes me feel intelligent. I like copacetic too but I don't know what that means.

 

[TheDouglas78]

No offense, but didnt you join a few months ago?

he meant the first to say it almost a year after Mac was hired.

 

[gatorkev85]

No offense, but didnt you join a few months ago?

You are correct and I take no offense, I was saying it over on the over board and that's why I got banned over there. I take it back T-Rex was most likely the 1st on this board to say it but I have been saying since I came here as well. Props to him for being the 1st on the board

 

[gatormandan]

Props to him for being the 1st on the board

This is nonsense. When Mac came here, he was named rookie coach of the year and started making changes to facilities right away and did the things most winning coaches would do. To say you knew right away that he wasnt the right fit is basically flying by the seat of your pants and guessing. You and Rex would have likely been negative towards ANY new coach even if they were pure winners. When you dislike the program its easy to do. Most people who are off the Mac train now have at least given him the opportunity to show why they feel he isnt the one verses someone who is just plain negative about everyone and everything and just grasping at straws to guess he isnt the guy. Props for being the 2nd worst negative guesser on the board.

 

[MertzJay26]

This is nonsense. When Mac came here, he was named rookie coach of the year and started making changes to facilities right away and did the things most winning coaches would do. To say you knew right away that he wasnt the right fit is basically flying by the seat of your pants and guessing. You and Rex would have likely been negative towards ANY new coach even if they were pure winners. When you dislike the program its easy to do. Most people who are off the Mac train now have at least given him the opportunity to show why they feel he isnt the one verses someone who is just plain negative about everyone and everything and just grasping at straws to guess he isnt the guy. Props for being the 2nd worst negative guesser on the board.

 

[T REX]

This is nonsense. When Mac came here, he was named rookie coach of the year and started making changes to facilities right away and did the things most winning coaches would do. To say you knew right away that he wasnt the right fit is basically flying by the seat of your pants and guessing. You and Rex would have likely been negative towards ANY new coach even if they were pure winners. When you dislike the program its easy to do. Most people who are off the Mac train now have at least given him the opportunity to show why they feel he isnt the one verses someone who is just plain negative about everyone and everything and just grasping at straws to guess he isnt the guy. Props for being the 2nd worst negative guesser on the board.

Actually, I gave Mac a chance. I even defended him some. All the posts are archived on here. Feel free to double check. I started to worry after he fell for the fake FG vs LSU. Everyone in the universe knew what was going to happen except MacZero. That started my decline. The total destruction to end season one was all we needed to know. He crapped the bed in recruiting and is now rolling around on his soiled mattress. There is more than enough data to see he ain;t gonna make it. Is there a small chance he could turn it around? Sure but the momentum is going the wrong way. Winning a hollow East is a joke. He'll get his third year and then get sent packing.

He's just not a great coach. Who cares who guessed it? The problem is it is true.

 

[Gator Fever]

I don't remember who was the first here to say Mac wasn't going to cut it they thought. I know Law would say it didn't mean crap that win - loss turnaround he had in Colorado State because it was a joke conference and that he would probably be in over his head here. A few people who I can't remember exactly now were saying his offenses at Bama weren't that good considering the personnel they had playing there.

I thought he would work out and would turn the offense around pretty quickly. I have been clearly wrong on that so far. I never really thought about the recruiting stuff at the time of his hiring.

 

[gatormandan]

So, the mad hatter used the fake field goal for years and dozens of apposing teams failed to foil it. It can be said that everyone should have known it. If it didnt work he likely wouldnt have continued to do it.

 

[T REX]

So, the mad hatter used the fake field goal for years and dozens of apposing teams failed to foil it. It can be said that everyone should have known it. If it didnt work he likely wouldnt have continued to do it.

Do you remember the game? I was screaming fake at the TV.The fact that it was the Hat's MO should have been enough. I never said that was the main reason...it just started me questioning if he was SEC caliber. Sylvester Croom won COY honors. WHo gives a crap about that?

Again, who cares who said it first...the issue is it is true.

 

[gatormandan]

Again, who cares who said it first...the issue is it is true.

Yes, that really is all that matters....to you. We have one or two more years of Mac and crew. While I dont have much hope left, I still hope he somehow figures this thing out.

 

[gatormandan]

I was screaming fake at the TV.

Everytime we played LSU I would scream watch the fake every time they kicked a FG.

 

[T REX]

Yes, that really is all that matters....to you. We have one or two more years of Mac and crew. While I dont have much hope left, I still hope he somehow figures this thing out.

We all have hope Dan. I'm pretty sure we all want him to win every game. Criticizing his on the field product and he poor recruiting does not mean we are rooting against him. It more like real-time observations. He could absolutely finish recruiting strong and go 10-3 nxt year. Just don't count on it.

 

[gatormandan]

does not mean we are rooting against him

Rex, you say the same thing in every thread and every post. Mac sucks at everything and we need to fire them all yesterday. Thats indisputable. If anyone says one positive thing or shows any hope whatsoever, you make sure everyone knows how much you think everything sucks. You say your not rooting against him? I sure would hate to see your response to your enemies.

 

[InstiGATOR1]

UAL- who writes that?

Do you call us UFL?

Or Clown Town FLSU?

LASU?

UAR?

UTN?

I do for one. It clarifies the distinction be between UAL, UAR, UAZ, UAK, I also call UTn and UTx with their postal abreviation. If you like UAl better, I find that the lower case L looking like the upper case I causes some confusion. That UAR and UAL are in this conference makes the confusion of UA come up even more than the UTn and UTx case. Similarly we have UMo and UMs in the same conference not to mention UMi etc around the country.

 

[MertzJay26]

Rex, you say the same thing in every thread and every post. Mac sucks at everything and we need to fire them all yesterday. Thats indisputable. If anyone says one positive thing or shows any hope whatsoever, you make sure everyone knows how much you think everything sucks. You say your not rooting against him? I sure would hate to see your response to your enemies.

 

[T REX]

Rex, you say the same thing in every thread and every post. Mac sucks at everything and we need to fire them all yesterday. Thats indisputable. If anyone says one positive thing or shows any hope whatsoever, you make sure everyone knows how much you think everything sucks. You say your not rooting against him? I sure would hate to see your response to your enemies.

Just move on Dan.

 

[gatormandan]

Just move on Dan.

Move on? You get called out almost daily for the same crap. Do you "move on?"

 

[CU-UF]

Not going to change anyone's opinion on this board. There is no logic are rational that you could actually have a conversation. At least when it comes to this subject

 

[MertzJay26]

Not going to change anyone's opinion on this board. There is no logic are rational that you could actually have a conversation. At least when it comes to this subject