CENSORED BY OTHER BOARDS: A recruiting story that should make you all warm and cozy

Gator Fever

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Now that Foley is gone that policy of charging visiting recruits for working out needs to leave with him especially with the money getting sent to the womens tennis team.
 

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It occurred to me last night that given the time period this is reported to have occurred- June- it's a little strange it took until this key time period between the season ending and signing day for this to hit social media. Have to wonder why the delay. That part to me is suspicious. Also, as someone said already, it would be interesting to see if the QB recruit wrote anything at the time or now about his visit..

The story is detailed, but if I put my mind to it and was creating a story, I could come up with detail. Just sayin;. That's how you make it believable. Don't know what is true about the organization of our recruiting activities.

Don't know about this particular story, but have a few friends in the support staff in different areas. Their is some general disorganization in the organization, that comes from the CEO (Head Coach). The problem isn't whether this story is true, its the fact that with the disorganization in the organization it wouldn't be shocking if it is.
 

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It occurred to me last night that given the time period this is reported to have occurred- June- it's a little strange it took until this key time period between the season ending and signing day for this to hit social media.
I didnt realize it was June.

I still want to know why the damn weightroom was empty and locked up, though Im not really surprised given our S&C results.
 

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I didnt realize it was June.

I still want to know why the damn weightroom was empty and locked up, though Im not really surprised given our S&C results.

S&C were probably out with the camps, they are the ones who keep the camps (at least the ones I went to) going. They did the day to day, while the position coaches came out when it was position and teaching time. But also the weight room was still open when I was at these camps, players were still working out.
 

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If this story is true there is no way Mac should keep these assistant coaches. We will see. If he keeps them then the story is questionable imo.

Here is an attempt to refute the original post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FloridaGators/comments/5iy4ub/story_about_florida_recruiting/

Also one of the links in the above says he is Mickey Mitchell's younger brother. As I am sure you remember Mickey Mitchell tweeted surprise/dismay when Donovan took Kevaugh Allen's committment. That might explain a lot about this post.
 

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Don't know about this particular story, but have a few friends in the support staff in different areas. Their is some general disorganization in the organization, that comes from the CEO (Head Coach). The problem isn't whether this story is true, its the fact that with the disorganization in the organization it wouldn't be shocking if it is.
Thanks for the information.
 

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Surely if that QB recruit was frustrated so thoroughly, he would have expressed such on social media
to his friends.
 

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I notice that still no one has refuted this. Im not surprised.

As I continue to think about this even more questions arise. Look, I get the possibly scheduling mixup, kid said maybe maybe not depends on if I can find a ride or something. Its not acceptable, someone has to be following up, but I get it.

However, why werent we prepared for unofficials from anyone on that day? All the coaches on the road, you say? So why was Mac and Nusschamp doing a camp with 7th graders when our recruiting is circling the toilet? Shouldnt they have either been on the road or visiting kids (official or unofficial) in Hoggetowne?

Why the hell was the weightroom locked up? Are you telling me no staff was there? Locked up? No kids working out? No asst S&C available? No wonder our lineman (esp DEs we are forced to play at DT) keep losing weight.

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Is there ANYTHING about Butters and Co that arent fvkked up bc Im having troubke thinking of one thing.


No wonder we get destroyed by the likes of Arky and any other ranked team we play.

Maybe no one has refuted it because no one wants to get blasted for going against the popular narrative.

However, this previously posted newspaper article appears to be the basis of the story.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...chell-oviedo-alabama-camp-20160609-story.html

There is some evidence that the most likely source of the story is someone that read the newspaper article and then embellished it to fit an agenda.

The article states that Mitchell "showed up Wednesday" for the Alabama camp. Since the article was printed on June 9, 2016 that would mean that Mitchell attended the June 8th camp in Tuscaloosa. That was the Youth Camp, for ages 8-14. Since Morgan is a "sophomore-to-be" that would most likely make him 14 or 15 putting him at the upper end of the age range at that camp.

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/6/2/8631279/alabama-football-recruiting-summer-camps-saban-nsd

That would certainly explain getting the most attention instead of the 8 year olds. However, the story that is related by the OP talks about the kid going to Saban's office and spending hours talking with him.

"Saban walked up and watched the QB throw and started talking to him. He then invited this kid to his office where they spent the next 2-3 hours chatting one-on-one. Saban said this kid was his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores and therefore wanted to wait a little bit a see more film out of him. Saban told him that if he continued on the path he was on, he would be getting a Bama offer in the not so distant future."

When the kid is interviewed in the newspaper article he never mentions talking to Saban at all. He does say "Lane Kiffen and the whole coaching staff was there", but he never mentions Saban at all. Mitchell is quoted as saying that Kiffen told him "He said Coach [head coach Nick] Saban doesn't want to offer a young quarterback without evaluating him a little bit more". Mitchell was very excited about meeting the coaches and talks a lot about Kiffen, it seems unlikely that he would have forgotten to mention going to Saban's office for 2-3 hours.

The author of the story referenced in the OP is exaggerating the kids stature in the world of football. Supposedly Kiffen told Mitchell that he was "his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores." However, Alabama has already offered sophomore 2019 QB Taulia Tagovailoa.

https://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/Offers

The story posted by the OP states "Fast forward about a week and the QB gets a call from UF (not sure which coach). UF asks him to come up for a camp." However, the newspaper article says that Mitchell planned to attend the Gators camp on Monday. That would be the June 13th Mini Camp for 14 - 18 year olds.

https://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

That does not match the time line of the story in the OP. If Mitchell had already planned to attend the camp then it would make sense that he had looked at the information for the camp. It is clearly stated that a physical is required to attend the camp. That is pretty standard for all camps.

The story in the OP states "When they walk in there are hundreds of “little” kids camping there." However, the camp is for 14-18 year olds. The little kids would have been at the camp in Tuscaloosa that was for 8-14 year olds.

At the Gator camp Mitchell would have been one of the youngest attendees. In addition, his career stats are 2 passes with one completion for 6 yards. That would explain why the coaches might have been spending more time with other QB's at the camp.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/mo...EeW-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/football-stats.htm

The story in the OP states "They find Coach Collins and he immediately begins to apologize to them that they forgot they had a youth camp there that weekend and it was crazy. (As a side not, personally I think it’s great that we are holding these youth camps, just not sure that you want to invite a stud QB to the campus on the same weekend.)"

The camp was on Monday not the weekend, almost every attendee would have been older than Mitchell, Mitchell already knew there was a camp and at this point in time Mitchell is a relative unknown with 2 career passes and 6 total yards.

The story in the OP makes a big deal out of the kid needing to condition for 30 minutes at the Gator camp, but states this about the Alabama camp "he was greeted by Lane and proceeded to stretch/warm up for about 30 minutes".

The story in the OP states "he tells them to walk over to the stadium, speak with Megan (I think that was the name he said) at the desk." He then goes on about how Megan won't let him in.

There is no one named Megan working in the football department at the UAA. There isn't even anyone with a name that is close. In fact there are only 4 women working that department - Shawnee, Nancy, Deidra and Chelsea.

https://floridagators.com/staff.aspx

In the story in the OP it states "He tells them that they need to go back upstairs, fill out the registration form and pay the $40 fee."

The fee for the camp is $25. There was not a single camp the entire summer with a $40 fee.

https://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

The whole post is riddled with inaccuracies. It appears that someone took the newspaper article and created a story around that framework that was designed to serve an agenda.
 

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My favorite parts:
[Pump]It didnt happen, but if it did it was Collins' (or some other dude who has already left, naybe Mushcramp's) fault.[/Pump]

I read a few of the comments. This one made me chuckle...
[–]OrangeandBlue19 18 points19 points20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For the love of Tebow PARAGRAPH BREAKS!!!

"For the love of Tebow..." Never heard that one before... Be looking for me to use that one in the future...;)
 

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Its not Mitchell, Pumper2222. Its the kid from Oviedo. Youre waaaaaay behind the times. The Pumpers gave up blaming it on Mitchell (and dragging him through the mud) days ago.

It must be rough being a Pump. You bravely defended Fooley for decades (now even GC blames him and calls our facilities horrible and say that the plumbing didnt even work so the players could use the bathrom or shower), you stuck w Chimp til the bitter end, you blamed that stupid GA we hired as a db coach for fvkking up recruiting last year, this year its Summers, Nord and Collins (who you loved a week ago). Who is next? Tough duty.
 
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Its not Mitchell, Pumper2222. Its the kid from Oviedo.

Youre waaaaaay behind the times. The Pumpers gave up blaming it on Mitchell (and dragging him through the mud) days ago.

It must be rough beimg a Pump. You bravely defended Fooley for a decade, now even GC blames him and calls our facilities horrible, you blamed that stupid GA we hired as a db coach for fvkking up recruiting, next its Summers, Nord and Collins (who you loved a week ago). Who is next? Tough duty.

You are obviously thinking of someone else as I haven't been posting on forums for a decade.

Way to ignore the post and go on a personal attack.

Who's the kid at Oveido again?
 

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2222, let's say our class finishes ranked 20th or worse. Will you spin that as a good thing? Do you honestly think people shouldn't be severely concerned about our recruiting? Hell, even the GC guys are cracking, and they aren't allowed to.
 

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Again, trivial bullshyt. You keep pulling rabbits out of your hat on side bullshyt and trying to distract. Copy and paste from your UAA shythead masters.

Yeah, you got me on the name. I was switching between that other site and here. Good job. Pat on the back.

He sucks? He was visiting with Bama but he sucks. Right. I guess we can always find some more HS backups destined to be clipboard holders in Div 3 instead. Donkey the QB Whisperer can do it with anyone, right?

You can't find the name of that staffer? I notice that you and your UAA overlords don't say no Intern/GA whatever by that name works there, just that there isn't one in the directory. God knows many of the lower staff aren't listed.

Does it fvkking matter if he was charged $40 or $25? Nooo..

Does anyone actually deny it happened? No. You fvkking blame it on Sidehat now that he is gone.

What matters is we have a bunch of fvkking retards that, instead of selling the program to a kid on an unofficial visit, we charge him money and have him throw to seven graders, after requiring a physical (maybe the other $15 that bothers you so was for a physical), then don't show him the facilities or pitch him at all. And even that is a side issue to the fact that our recruiting is the worst its been in forty years us this currently looks like the worst class of the bunch. Like pretty much every other kid, he is more impressed with every other SEC and even midmajors than us.

The truth is, if you are a winner, you can be an absolute cawk to recruits, Lil Satan and CUM are, and know that you will still land recruits.

Butters McBlowout is in a different boat altogether and he better realize he isnt far from the iceberg.
 
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Again, trivial bullshyt. You keep pulling rabbits out of your hat on side bullshyt and trying to distract.

Does it fvkking matter if he was charged $40 or $25? Nooo.. what matters is we have a bunch of fvkking retards that, instead of selling the program to a kid on an unofficial visit, we charge him money and have him throw to seven graders, after requiring a physical (maybe the other $15 that bothers you so was for a physical), then dont show him the facilities. And even that is a side issue to the fact that our recruiting is the worst its been in forty years us this currently looks like the worst class of the bunch.

The truth is, if you are a winner, you can be an absolute cawk to recruits, Lil Satan and CUM are, and know that you will still land recruits.

Butters McBlowout is in a different boat altogether and he better realize he isnt far from the iceberg.
You didn't even have the right guy - your argument is invalid at this point. Go back to drinking. :lol:
 

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