CENSORED BY OTHER BOARDS: A recruiting story that should make you all warm and cozy

[ThreatMatrix]

Maybe no one has refuted it because no one wants to get blasted for going against the popular narrative.

However, this previously posted newspaper article appears to be the basis of the story.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...chell-oviedo-alabama-camp-20160609-story.html

There is some evidence that the most likely source of the story is someone that read the newspaper article and then embellished it to fit an agenda.

The article states that Mitchell "showed up Wednesday" for the Alabama camp. Since the article was printed on June 9, 2016 that would mean that Mitchell attended the June 8th camp in Tuscaloosa. That was the Youth Camp, for ages 8-14. Since Morgan is a "sophomore-to-be" that would most likely make him 14 or 15 putting him at the upper end of the age range at that camp.

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/6/2/8631279/alabama-football-recruiting-summer-camps-saban-nsd

That would certainly explain getting the most attention instead of the 8 year olds. However, the story that is related by the OP talks about the kid going to Saban's office and spending hours talking with him.

"Saban walked up and watched the QB throw and started talking to him. He then invited this kid to his office where they spent the next 2-3 hours chatting one-on-one. Saban said this kid was his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores and therefore wanted to wait a little bit a see more film out of him. Saban told him that if he continued on the path he was on, he would be getting a Bama offer in the not so distant future."

When the kid is interviewed in the newspaper article he never mentions talking to Saban at all. He does say "Lane Kiffen and the whole coaching staff was there", but he never mentions Saban at all. Mitchell is quoted as saying that Kiffen told him "He said Coach [head coach Nick] Saban doesn't want to offer a young quarterback without evaluating him a little bit more". Mitchell was very excited about meeting the coaches and talks a lot about Kiffen, it seems unlikely that he would have forgotten to mention going to Saban's office for 2-3 hours.

The author of the story referenced in the OP is exaggerating the kids stature in the world of football. Supposedly Kiffen told Mitchell that he was "his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores." However, Alabama has already offered sophomore 2019 QB Taulia Tagovailoa.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/Offers

The story posted by the OP states "Fast forward about a week and the QB gets a call from UF (not sure which coach). UF asks him to come up for a camp." However, the newspaper article says that Mitchell planned to attend the Gators camp on Monday. That would be the June 13th Mini Camp for 14 - 18 year olds.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

That does not match the time line of the story in the OP. If Mitchell had already planned to attend the camp then it would make sense that he had looked at the information for the camp. It is clearly stated that a physical is required to attend the camp. That is pretty standard for all camps.

The story in the OP states "When they walk in there are hundreds of “little” kids camping there." However, the camp is for 14-18 year olds. The little kids would have been at the camp in Tuscaloosa that was for 8-14 year olds.

At the Gator camp Mitchell would have been one of the youngest attendees. In addition, his career stats are 2 passes with one completion for 6 yards. That would explain why the coaches might have been spending more time with other QB's at the camp.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/mor...EeW-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/football-stats.htm

The story in the OP states "They find Coach Collins and he immediately begins to apologize to them that they forgot they had a youth camp there that weekend and it was crazy. (As a side not, personally I think it’s great that we are holding these youth camps, just not sure that you want to invite a stud QB to the campus on the same weekend.)"

The camp was on Monday not the weekend, almost every attendee would have been older than Mitchell, Mitchell already knew there was a camp and at this point in time Mitchell is a relative unknown with 2 career passes and 6 total yards.

The story in the OP makes a big deal out of the kid needing to condition for 30 minutes at the Gator camp, but states this about the Alabama camp "he was greeted by Lane and proceeded to stretch/warm up for about 30 minutes".

The story in the OP states "he tells them to walk over to the stadium, speak with Megan (I think that was the name he said) at the desk." He then goes on about how Megan won't let him in.

There is no one named Megan working in the football department at the UAA. There isn't even anyone with a name that is close. In fact there are only 4 women working that department - Shawnee, Nancy, Deidra and Chelsea.

http://floridagators.com/staff.aspx

In the story in the OP it states "He tells them that they need to go back upstairs, fill out the registration form and pay the $40 fee."

The fee for the camp is $25. There was not a single camp the entire summer with a $40 fee.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

The whole post is riddled with inaccuracies. It appears that someone took the newspaper article and created a story around that framework that was designed to serve an agenda.

So basically it was a fake news story that reputable sites took down but other, not so reputable, borderline click-bait sites, keep up.

 

[rogdochar]

Maybe no one has refuted it because no one wants to get blasted for going against the popular narrative.

However, this previously posted newspaper article appears to be the basis of the story.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...chell-oviedo-alabama-camp-20160609-story.html

There is some evidence that the most likely source of the story is someone that read the newspaper article and then embellished it to fit an agenda.

The article states that Mitchell "showed up Wednesday" for the Alabama camp. Since the article was printed on June 9, 2016 that would mean that Mitchell attended the June 8th camp in Tuscaloosa. That was the Youth Camp, for ages 8-14. Since Morgan is a "sophomore-to-be" that would most likely make him 14 or 15 putting him at the upper end of the age range at that camp.

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/6/2/8631279/alabama-football-recruiting-summer-camps-saban-nsd

That would certainly explain getting the most attention instead of the 8 year olds. However, the story that is related by the OP talks about the kid going to Saban's office and spending hours talking with him.

"Saban walked up and watched the QB throw and started talking to him. He then invited this kid to his office where they spent the next 2-3 hours chatting one-on-one. Saban said this kid was his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores and therefore wanted to wait a little bit a see more film out of him. Saban told him that if he continued on the path he was on, he would be getting a Bama offer in the not so distant future."

When the kid is interviewed in the newspaper article he never mentions talking to Saban at all. He does say "Lane Kiffen and the whole coaching staff was there", but he never mentions Saban at all. Mitchell is quoted as saying that Kiffen told him "He said Coach [head coach Nick] Saban doesn't want to offer a young quarterback without evaluating him a little bit more". Mitchell was very excited about meeting the coaches and talks a lot about Kiffen, it seems unlikely that he would have forgotten to mention going to Saban's office for 2-3 hours.

The author of the story referenced in the OP is exaggerating the kids stature in the world of football. Supposedly Kiffen told Mitchell that he was "his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores." However, Alabama has already offered sophomore 2019 QB Taulia Tagovailoa.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/Offers

The story posted by the OP states "Fast forward about a week and the QB gets a call from UF (not sure which coach). UF asks him to come up for a camp." However, the newspaper article says that Mitchell planned to attend the Gators camp on Monday. That would be the June 13th Mini Camp for 14 - 18 year olds.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

That does not match the time line of the story in the OP. If Mitchell had already planned to attend the camp then it would make sense that he had looked at the information for the camp. It is clearly stated that a physical is required to attend the camp. That is pretty standard for all camps.

The story in the OP states "When they walk in there are hundreds of “little” kids camping there." However, the camp is for 14-18 year olds. The little kids would have been at the camp in Tuscaloosa that was for 8-14 year olds.

At the Gator camp Mitchell would have been one of the youngest attendees. In addition, his career stats are 2 passes with one completion for 6 yards. That would explain why the coaches might have been spending more time with other QB's at the camp.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/mor...EeW-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/football-stats.htm

The story in the OP states "They find Coach Collins and he immediately begins to apologize to them that they forgot they had a youth camp there that weekend and it was crazy. (As a side not, personally I think it’s great that we are holding these youth camps, just not sure that you want to invite a stud QB to the campus on the same weekend.)"

The camp was on Monday not the weekend, almost every attendee would have been older than Mitchell, Mitchell already knew there was a camp and at this point in time Mitchell is a relative unknown with 2 career passes and 6 total yards.

The story in the OP makes a big deal out of the kid needing to condition for 30 minutes at the Gator camp, but states this about the Alabama camp "he was greeted by Lane and proceeded to stretch/warm up for about 30 minutes".

The story in the OP states "he tells them to walk over to the stadium, speak with Megan (I think that was the name he said) at the desk." He then goes on about how Megan won't let him in.

There is no one named Megan working in the football department at the UAA. There isn't even anyone with a name that is close. In fact there are only 4 women working that department - Shawnee, Nancy, Deidra and Chelsea.

http://floridagators.com/staff.aspx

In the story in the OP it states "He tells them that they need to go back upstairs, fill out the registration form and pay the $40 fee."

The fee for the camp is $25. There was not a single camp the entire summer with a $40 fee.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

The whole post is riddled with inaccuracies. It appears that someone took the newspaper article and created a story around that framework that was designed to serve an agenda.

Very thorough "setting the record straight", "toomanytwos".

 

[ufgator2002]

Maybe no one has refuted it because no one wants to get blasted for going against the popular narrative.

However, this previously posted newspaper article appears to be the basis of the story.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...chell-oviedo-alabama-camp-20160609-story.html

There is some evidence that the most likely source of the story is someone that read the newspaper article and then embellished it to fit an agenda.

The article states that Mitchell "showed up Wednesday" for the Alabama camp. Since the article was printed on June 9, 2016 that would mean that Mitchell attended the June 8th camp in Tuscaloosa. That was the Youth Camp, for ages 8-14. Since Morgan is a "sophomore-to-be" that would most likely make him 14 or 15 putting him at the upper end of the age range at that camp.

http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/6/2/8631279/alabama-football-recruiting-summer-camps-saban-nsd

That would certainly explain getting the most attention instead of the 8 year olds. However, the story that is related by the OP talks about the kid going to Saban's office and spending hours talking with him.

"Saban walked up and watched the QB throw and started talking to him. He then invited this kid to his office where they spent the next 2-3 hours chatting one-on-one. Saban said this kid was his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores and therefore wanted to wait a little bit a see more film out of him. Saban told him that if he continued on the path he was on, he would be getting a Bama offer in the not so distant future."

When the kid is interviewed in the newspaper article he never mentions talking to Saban at all. He does say "Lane Kiffen and the whole coaching staff was there", but he never mentions Saban at all. Mitchell is quoted as saying that Kiffen told him "He said Coach [head coach Nick] Saban doesn't want to offer a young quarterback without evaluating him a little bit more". Mitchell was very excited about meeting the coaches and talks a lot about Kiffen, it seems unlikely that he would have forgotten to mention going to Saban's office for 2-3 hours.

The author of the story referenced in the OP is exaggerating the kids stature in the world of football. Supposedly Kiffen told Mitchell that he was "his #1 target for class of 2019 but that he typically does not offer sophomores." However, Alabama has already offered sophomore 2019 QB Taulia Tagovailoa.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/Offers

The story posted by the OP states "Fast forward about a week and the QB gets a call from UF (not sure which coach). UF asks him to come up for a camp." However, the newspaper article says that Mitchell planned to attend the Gators camp on Monday. That would be the June 13th Mini Camp for 14 - 18 year olds.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

That does not match the time line of the story in the OP. If Mitchell had already planned to attend the camp then it would make sense that he had looked at the information for the camp. It is clearly stated that a physical is required to attend the camp. That is pretty standard for all camps.

The story in the OP states "When they walk in there are hundreds of “little” kids camping there." However, the camp is for 14-18 year olds. The little kids would have been at the camp in Tuscaloosa that was for 8-14 year olds.

At the Gator camp Mitchell would have been one of the youngest attendees. In addition, his career stats are 2 passes with one completion for 6 yards. That would explain why the coaches might have been spending more time with other QB's at the camp.

http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/mor...EeW-8KA2nzwbTA/gendersport/football-stats.htm

The story in the OP states "They find Coach Collins and he immediately begins to apologize to them that they forgot they had a youth camp there that weekend and it was crazy. (As a side not, personally I think it’s great that we are holding these youth camps, just not sure that you want to invite a stud QB to the campus on the same weekend.)"

The camp was on Monday not the weekend, almost every attendee would have been older than Mitchell, Mitchell already knew there was a camp and at this point in time Mitchell is a relative unknown with 2 career passes and 6 total yards.

The story in the OP makes a big deal out of the kid needing to condition for 30 minutes at the Gator camp, but states this about the Alabama camp "he was greeted by Lane and proceeded to stretch/warm up for about 30 minutes".

The story in the OP states "he tells them to walk over to the stadium, speak with Megan (I think that was the name he said) at the desk." He then goes on about how Megan won't let him in.

There is no one named Megan working in the football department at the UAA. There isn't even anyone with a name that is close. In fact there are only 4 women working that department - Shawnee, Nancy, Deidra and Chelsea.

http://floridagators.com/staff.aspx

In the story in the OP it states "He tells them that they need to go back upstairs, fill out the registration form and pay the $40 fee."

The fee for the camp is $25. There was not a single camp the entire summer with a $40 fee.

http://floridagators.com/sports/2016/2/12/football_camps.aspx?id=13722

The whole post is riddled with inaccuracies. It appears that someone took the newspaper article and created a story around that framework that was designed to serve an agenda.

Nice work...

 

[ufgator2002]

It occurred to me last night that given the time period this is reported to have occurred- June- it's a little strange it took until this key time period between the season ending and signing day for this to hit social media. Have to wonder why the delay. That part to me is suspicious. Also, as someone said already, it would be interesting to see if the QB recruit wrote anything at the time or now about his visit..

The story is detailed, but if I put my mind to it and was creating a story or lie, I could come up with detail. Just sayin;. That's how you make it believable. The bottom line for me is I don't know what is true about the organization of our recruiting activities. If this had come out in June or even July, I wouldn't have this amount of skepticism.

+1

 

[Swamp Donkey]

If this had come out in June or even July, I wouldn't have this amount of skepticism.

It was around. People are just amazed that nothing has changed.

Never fear though, Collins just left so we can blame him now. Problems SOLVED!!!! And as to the QB, We (probably) Didn't Want Him Anyway.

Unless of course you mean the problem of actually landing enough talent to compete. Apparently AFTER this next disastrous class, we will fire the guys we should have fired two years ago and then we will have to wait three more years to see if they work out.

All is well.

 

[NVGator]

It was around. People are just amazed that nothing has changed.

Never fear though, Collins just left so we can blame him now. Problems SOLVED!!!! And We (probably) Didn't Want Him Anyway.

Unless of course you mean the problem of actually landing enough talent to compete. Apparently AFTER this next disastrous class, we will fire the guys we should have fired two years ago and then we will have to wait three more years to see if they work out.

All is well.

Seems like we've been here before, right?

 

[ufgator2002]

Again, trivial bullshyt. You keep pulling rabbits out of your hat on side bullshyt and trying to distract. Copy and paste from your UAA shythead masters.

Yeah, you got me on the name. I was switching between that other site and here. Good job. Pat on the back.

He sucks? He was visiting with Bama but he sucks. Right. I guess we can always find some more HS backups destined to be clipboard holders in Div 3 instead. Donkey the QB Whisperer can do it with anyone, right?

You can't find the name of that staffer? I notice that you and your UAA overlords don't say no Intern/GA whatever by that name works there, just that there isn't one in the directory. God knows many of the lower staff aren't listed.

Does it fvkking matter if he was charged $40 or $25? Nooo..

Does anyone actually deny it happened? No. You fvkking blame it on Sidehat now that he is gone.

What matters is we have a bunch of fvkking retards that, instead of selling the program to a kid on an unofficial visit, we charge him money and have him throw to seven graders, after requiring a physical (maybe the other $15 that bothers you so was for a physical), then don't show him the facilities or pitch him at all. And even that is a side issue to the fact that our recruiting is the worst its been in forty years us this currently looks like the worst class of the bunch. Like pretty much every other kid, he is more impressed with every other SEC and even midmajors than us.

The truth is, if you are a winner, you can be an absolute cawk to recruits, Lil Satan and CUM are, and know that you will still land recruits.

Butters McBlowout is in a different boat altogether and he better realize he isnt far from the iceberg.

Law??? Is that you?

 

[Uncle Rob]

The physical is the part that rings the most false to me. Find an express care place, lie about being a parent or guardian, get the physical and gett back to join the camp. 3 hours minimum and it sounds like the camp had already started.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Law??? Is that you?

Why do you ask?

 

[ThreatMatrix]

The physical is the part that rings the most false to me. Find an express care place, lie about being a parent or guardian, get the physical and gett back to join the camp. 3 hours minimum and it sounds like the camp had already started.

The entire story is so contrived that you have to be very naive to believe it. And yet, half the board falls for it hook, line and sinker.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The entire story is so contrived that you have to be very naive to believe it. And yet, half the board falls for it hook, line and sinker.

Lol, again, no one even debates that it HAPPENED, just some think the cost was only 25 (except for the physical) and quibble with whether it was embellished..... and agree that it must have been all Collins' fault.

 

[oxrageous]

The entire story is so contrived that you have to be very naive to believe it. And yet, half the board falls for it hook, line and sinker.

The recruiting has been so poor why wouldn't we believe it? There has to be some explanation.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The recruiting has been so poor why wouldn't we believe it? There has to be some explanation.

They are all GREAT recruiters who just havent had enough time to develop relationships.

Or Treon.

Those are the only possible explanations.

 

[gatormandan]

They are all GREAT recruiters who just havent had enough time to develop relationships.

Or Treon.

Those are the only possible explanations.

I know you and rex are related but how is he able to post under your name?

 

[T REX]

I know you and rex are related but how is he able to post under your name?

You know how you b!tch about me saying the same thing over and over again...well, take your own advice for once.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

The recruiting has been so poor why wouldn't we believe it? There has to be some explanation.

C'mon man. The story sounds like something crafted by the DNC along the lines of Trump goose stepping around his yacht, grabbing pussy, with black slaves fanning him, while taking target practice at muslims. It plays on all the fears of the (un)faithful. Honestly could you have made up a story that sounded any worse?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I know you and rex are related but how is he able to post under your name?

Youre jealous of my boy, arent you?

 

[gatormandan]

Youre jealous of my boy, arent you?

I have been around a few women who bitched and moaned and complained about anything and everything but they are like queens compared to you two.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

C'mon man. The story sounds like something crafted by the DNC along the lines of Trump goose stepping around his yacht, grabbing pussy, with black slaves fanning him, while taking target practice at muslims. It plays on all the fears of the (un)faithful. Honestly could you have made up a story that sounded any worse?

Seriously? Everyone agrees he was supposed to unofficial, on Sidehat's request, and he some how got stuck with a bunch of middle school kids. Does it really fvkking matter if they charged him 40 for the camp or $25 for the camp and $15 for the physical?What the name of the female intern was (he even says he wasnt sure)? The important facts arent even doubt.

And why the gratuitous slap about his freshman stats when he was still a backup? Either you want him or not. Bama wanted him to unofficial, so thats also a clue. However its true he may never develop.

Or we can sit around Heehawin for two years then try to flip him (or someone like him, someone in the same boat who has been ignored by our staff) in December of his senior year after he has been committed elsewhere for a year.

At least Ole Spivey can claim we came in second.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Seriously? Everyone agrees he was supposed to unofficial, on Sidehat's request, and he some how got stuck with a bunch of middle school kids. Does it really fvkking matter if they charged him 40 for the camp or $25 for the camp and $15 for the physical?What the name of the female intern was (he even says he wasnt sure)? The important facts arent even doubt.

And why the gratuitous slap about his freshman stats when he was still a backup? Either you want him or not. Bama wanted him to unofficial, so thats also a clue. However its true he may never develop.

Or we can sit around Heehawin for two years then try to flip him (or someone like him, someone in the same boat who has been ignored by our staff) in December of his senior year after he has been committed elsewhere for a year.

At least Ole Spivey can claim we came in second.

There are many more holes in the story that you don't care to acknowledge. I can reiterate them for you but I can't understand them for you. Would a powerpoint presentation with bullet points make it easier for you? In the end when 75% of the story is BS it calls into question the other 25%.