Scott Stricklin and the future of Florida football

[t-gator]

I think we're a little premature with doubting Strickland. He's gotten approved for some facility upgrades and hes running around trying to raise money. He inherited mac and I don't know what we should expect him to do at this point. Fire a coach that just won 9 and the east because his recruiting class isnt in the top 10? I'm not a fan of his take on recruiting rankings but he was probably defending the shcitty coach he was saddled with.

 

[78]

We can bash the hiring of Mullet as much as we want but he was damn good hire for Missy State.

You probably could have floated a lot of different solutions at Miss State and netted tangible improvement. The expectations here are higher and much more difficult to achieve.

 

[Jenny On The Railroad]

I don't mean to pile on, which of course I am, but I have a concern, and it's legitimate. It's the new AD's resume being absent of any football experience. Not just football managerial experience. I'm talking football experience of ANY kind. He's a media relations guy who morphed into an administrator role. And yet he's empowered to replace Mac if he fails.

Here's the what if of my message. What if next season turns out out to be a dud -- I'm talking a worse record, no SEC East "title" and no sense of direction -- and UF decides to replace McElwain? What are the prospects for a solid hire under Stricklin? Does the university sub out to a search firm to find a suitable replacement? Are we headed down a rabbit hole?

Sorry, I don't mean to sound dire, but I'm trying to consider all sides of the equation. The best NFL teams have football guys running the show. We don't have a football guy running the show, and football pays the bills.

Don't worry, Fooley will be there to make the decision.

 

[78]

I think we're a little premature with doubting Strickland. He's gotten approved for some facility upgrades and hes running around trying to raise money. He inherited mac and I don't know what we should expect him to do at this point. Fire a coach that just won 9 and the east because his recruiting class isnt in the top 10? I'm not a fan of his take on recruiting rankings but he was probably defending the shcitty coach he was saddled with.

You're absolutely right in my being premature, which was the whole point of the thread. I'm speculating on purpose because I view next season as a tossup.

 

[chferg]

Uh some of y'all need some history lessons. Stricklin didn't hire cuzin Eddy but he did fire a b-ball coach after two years and hire Ben howland

 

[Jenny On The Railroad]

He hired Dan Mullen. What more do you want?

Did he? I read somewhere Mullen was hired prior. ???

 

[MidwestChomp]

Greg Byrne hired Mullen. Byrne is now the AD at Alabama. Interesting huh?

While the jury is out on Stricklin, he made a poor hire for men's basketball, fired him, and hired Ben Howland. But, basketball isn't football. And MS State athletics are not UF athletics.

 

[jdh5484]

I don't mean to pile on, which of course I am, but I have a concern, and it's legitimate. It's the new AD's resume being absent of any football experience. Not just football managerial experience. I'm talking football experience of ANY kind. He's a media relations guy who morphed into an administrator role. And yet he's empowered to replace Mac if he fails.

Here's the what if of my message. What if next season turns out out to be a dud -- I'm talking a worse record, no SEC East "title" and no sense of direction -- and UF decides to replace McElwain? What are the prospects for a solid hire under Stricklin? Does the university sub out to a search firm to find a suitable replacement? Are we headed down a rabbit hole?

Sorry, I don't mean to sound dire, but I'm trying to consider all sides of the equation. The best NFL teams have football guys running the show. We don't have a football guy running the show, and football pays the bills.

Does an AD need to have first hand knowledge of any particular sport. It's a leadership role. Having a strong Marketing background isn't a bad thing. I would think having an MBA would be a requirement though. Or at least a Masters in Sports Management. That's an awful lotta cabbage for an undergrad marketing puke. That's probably just jealousy on my part.

Anyway, one pre-crisis at a time. We are still trying to complete the pre-NSD meltdown. We'll pick this up again between the post O&B meltdown and the pre-fall practice crisis.

It's all about the process 78'. Follow the Gator message board process!

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Greg Byrne hired Mullen. Byrne is now the AD at Alabama. Interesting huh?

Mullett at Bammer when Satan retires would be a dream come true.

 

[78]

Here's the gig, folks, not that you didn't already know what I'm about to say. Duh, college football has evolved into a multi-billion dollar industry. That's right, industry. Thirty or 40 years ago, athletic departments hired ADs based primarily based on their understanding of athletics. Nowadays, ADs are looked at in a much more comprehensive fashion. They're not just empowered to hired coaches. Their primary responsibility is as fiduciary over athletic department trusts.

As such, the credentials that lead to AD hires don't always predispose those in the power of decisionmaking to put as heavy of emphasis on the proverbial X's and O's.

Hence how we got to where we are. Overall great, a "C" in managing college football.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Does an AD need to have first hand knowledge of any particular sport. It's a leadership role. Having a strong Marketing background isn't a bad thing.

There is really only one single thing the AD must do, hire a great football coach and give him the tools he needs to compete. Bean counting, marketing, and minor sports can be delegated.

 

[MidwestChomp]

Mullett at Bammer when Satan retires would be a dream come true.

He also hired Rich Rod at Arizona. So we could hope for that too.

 

[78]

Does an AD need to have first hand knowledge of any particular sport. It's a leadership role. Having a strong Marketing background isn't a bad thing. I would think having an MBA would be a requirement though. Or at least a Masters in Sports Management. That's an awful lotta cabbage for an undergrad marketing puke. That's probably just jealousy on my part.

Anyway, one pre-crisis at a time. We are still trying to complete the pre-NSD meltdown. We'll pick this up again between the post O&B meltdown and the pre-fall practice crisis.

It's all about the process 78'. Follow the Gator message board process!

Football involves a lot of moving parts. Yes, I do think it's better to have someone who has a football background, no different than if I were hiring a CEO of an engineering firm. I'd expect him to have engineering experience.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I dont think Rich Rod would be well received at Bammer again.

 

[Okeechobee Joe]

Did he? I read somewhere Mullen was hired prior. ???

You are right JOTR. I was wrong and stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[jdh5484]

Football involves a lot of moving parts. Yes, I do think it's better to have someone who has a football background, no different than if I were hiring a CEO of an engineering firm. I'd expect him to have engineering experience.

I would think S/He better have a solid background leading Program Managers, Finance, Marketing, Accounting, HR AND strategic planning.

 

[78]

I would think S/He better have a solid background leading Program Managers, Finance, Marketing, Accounting, HR AND strategic planning.

I addressed that in a previous post. The scope of duty of the typical major college AD nowadays has risen to that of a full-fledged CEO, and with it comes the need for skills in multiple areas. But when you get down to it, Tim Cook's company lives and dies with the iPhone. How much sense does it make for him to allow the iPhone to languish while focusing on increased sales of MacBooks and iTunes apps?

 

[ThreatMatrix]

I don't mean to pile on, which of course I am, but I have a concern, and it's legitimate. It's the new AD's resume being absent of any football experience. Not just football managerial experience. I'm talking football experience of ANY kind. He's a media relations guy who morphed into an administrator role. And yet he's empowered to replace Mac if he fails.

Here's the what if of my message. What if next season turns out out to be a dud -- I'm talking a worse record, no SEC East "title" and no sense of direction -- and UF decides to replace McElwain? What are the prospects for a solid hire under Stricklin? Does the university sub out to a search firm to find a suitable replacement? Are we headed down a rabbit hole?

Sorry, I don't mean to sound dire, but I'm trying to consider all sides of the equation. The best NFL teams have football guys running the show. We don't have a football guy running the show, and football pays the bills.

Glad the conversation is moving beyond the myopic, sophomoric "Mac sux" pablum. The next few days may be give us some indication with who gets hired as assistants. If they are home run hires they're may be some hope. If not... follow the money. So let's say next year is 4-8. The first question is does Stricklin make a move? Does he not because of the buyout? Follow the money. When Stricklin finally makes a move is it for another $3.5M diamond in the rough? We may in for a long ride.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

He inherited mac and I don't know what we should expect him to do at this point.

Give Butters the tools to fix the problem and/or demand that he do so. Make it clear that the expectations that strong recruiting are the standard around here, and that 4 losses seasons and frequent blowouts do not meet the standard.

All of which should have been done around December 8th or so at the latest.

 

[t-gator]

Give Butters the tools to fix the problem and/or demand that he do so. Make it clear that the expectations that strong recruiting are the standard around here, and that 4 losses seasons and frequent blowouts do not meet the standard.

All of which should have been done around December 8th or so at the latest.

How do we know he hasn't? Summers and Nord are gone. We've gotten approved for the football only building. Not saying he isnt worthless, just saying it's too early to tell. I wasn't a fan of his recruiting comments but he was probably backed in a corner and had to say something to answer for macs inability to recruit. I mean it's a national subject.