We Talkin Bout The State of the Program!

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Well, it looks like Concrete is rooting against him....and it's pretty clear, "I'm rather not see him playing anywhere....."

I'm not sure what you gathered from that comment. And your comparison to LDR is apples & oranges. RDJ hasn't played a single down of DT for us. So wouldn't it be prudent to wait and see how he does before we throw him out w/ the bath water?? If he sh*ts the bed, then sure, we can rehash this discussion.
It's not apples and oranges. If a poster thinks someone does not have a lot of talent and they don't think he should play. That's not rooting against a kid...that's wanting the best for our program. Take it however you want from there.
 

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It's not apples and oranges. If a poster thinks someone does not have a lot of talent and they don't think he should play. That's not rooting against a kid...that's wanting the best for our program. Take it however you want from there.


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But, did he actually throw the first four passes in "fastball"? If yes, then he is the number one QB.....

Franks prolly transferring....

I did see Franks miss a wide open Callaway...bet Trask would have hit that pass.

It's Trask time boys!
 

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Whoever it is, I want a 60%+ completion rate. That sounds like Trask ??
Yet, Franks has the overriding physical attributes -- those intraskables.
 

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If you put those conditions into the agreement I would have no issue with it, the players might not sign that stuff. And without the money many could not afford school either.
Explain why other schools do it and beat us in recruiting year after year. I get it, us adults would look at that stuff and say ehhh... maybe ill look elsewhere, but us adults arent the one signing. Those kids sign up regardless to play for winners knowing full well they may never see the field or be at some directional school in a year or 2... and yet...
 

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Whoever it is, I want a 60%+ completion rate. That sounds like Trask ??
Yet, Franks has the overriding physical attributes -- those intraskables.
That's an overrated stat even driskel completed over 60% boys soph year but it doesn't matter of you avg 5 yards per pass play. We need 60%+ with an avg closer to 7-8 per play
 

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That's an overrated stat even driskel completed over 60% boys soph year but it doesn't matter of you avg 5 yards per pass play. We need 60%+ with an avg closer to 7-8 per play

Well, that's 60%+ DUDE. Gosh, do I have to tell you everything?
 

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Explain why other schools do it and beat us in recruiting year after year. I get it, us adults would look at that stuff and say ehhh... maybe ill look elsewhere, but us adults arent the one signing. Those kids sign up regardless to play for winners knowing full well they may never see the field or be at some directional school in a year or 2... and yet...

They do it because winning to them is more important than taking care of their students. So if being a football factory and winning are your priorities then do whatever you can get away with, if you have priorities that include academics, developing all our athletes as individuals for the benefit then you do different things. Now I understand that the NCAA is under some pressure to require full ride schollys.

Now it is fine for you to have a different view than I do, just not fine to insist I am wrong.
 

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They do it because winning to them is more important than taking care of their students. So if being a football factory and winning are your priorities then do whatever you can get away with, if you have priorities that include academics, developing all our athletes as individuals for the benefit then you do different things. Now I understand that the NCAA is under some pressure to require full ride schollys.

Now it is fine for you to have a different view than I do, just not fine to insist I am wrong.

... so you're insisting I'm wrong to insist you're wrong? :D
 

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Those kids sign up regardless to play for winners knowing full well they may never see the field or be at some directional school in a year or 2... and yet...
At that level, you need the kind of kids who look at a depth chart and say, "Ehhhh.... I'm better I can beat them out."
 

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... so you're insisting I'm wrong to insist you're wrong? :D

Exactly, since there is no objective standard on this issue you can be correct for you and I can be correct for me. And if you insist that I am incorrect, well everything has consequences. Most times they are not too relevant.
 

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Exactly, since there is no objective standard on this issue you can be correct for you and I can be correct for me. And if you insist that I am incorrect, well everything has consequences. Most times they are not too relevant.

Either way, congratulations on the nice pissing contest!!! :D
 

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From the 247 practice notes:

Defensive tackle Luke Ancrum still appears far too light to really play major minutes inside. It's easy to wonder at this point if he'll ever add the size Florida's coaches thought he might when they slotted him at nose tackle.
No....he never will be able to! I think many of us on this board said that when he signed his LOI. Kid was a "filler take" period!!
 

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Also, that indoor facility looks awesome. Remember all the idiots who posted incessantly that "we're Florida! We don't need no indoor facility!"
Yeah...I remember...All the "Old Timers" would damn near stroke out if anyone mentioned an IPF. Good times!!! :lol:
 

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Yet, Franks has the overriding physical attributes -- those intraskables.

And what are those attributes? He's 2 inches taller? At 6'4 Trask is plenty tall enough for a QB... Franks is 2 inches taller and 15 - 20 pounds lighter. If anything, that would lead one to believe he is more "frail".

Or do you mean he has a bigger/better arm? That may be... But we haven't seen anything yet to definitively declare that. And based on what we're hearing from coaches and more importantly players, they both seem to have good arms.

I'm guessing Franks gets the early nod. But if he doesn't just absolutely own it... OR if he gets hurt, I wouldn't be surprised to see Trask overcome him in the long run...

Now all of this is just based on what little info we actially have. We won't know anything until the bullets start flying for real.
 

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I agree Alagator that we all know "nothing" concrete about the various comparisons. However, going by what nas been "said-printed" = no one has proposed that Trask is the QB with the more imposing physical characteristics = so I restated that usual -- my bad. Now, you're right, what does keep "sneaking in" over & over is what a "beautiful' pass Trask throws and his accuracy -- which goes with him never throwing an INT in 161 passes in H.S. plus none in O & B game.? I assume Franks' physicality includes 40 speed, elusiveness, jumping abilities, etc = things measured at combines or wherever (much like it went for Driskel). Those do not prove Franks better than Trask at leadership, driving the whole-team downfield, etc.

Not throwing INTs must relate to quick-decision brain-eye communication and that is of top importance as INTs kill drives and can turn games around. (Driskel v Miami)
 

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