Franks Spring Game Video

[ThreatMatrix]

Thanks, I have some hope now.
Post #4 I've wached that one 10X and I'm not sure how it could have been completed.
#6 I like this play. The receivers all run deep, If we block I little better Franks has time to find one of them for a big gain.
#7 If Heggie stays in his gap and gets the rusher Franks has a nice pass to Scarlet
#11 Powel drops easy pass but Perrine might have bee in position to score
#13 Franks overthrows Scarlett but that's got to be on of the easier things to correct.
#15 Stupid Ref.

 

[GatorBart]

The OL does a nice job in pass protection this time. Once again there are receivers running open everywhere. Franks chooses to throw to Powell who is running across the field underneath the defense. The ball is thrown high, but Powell is able to bring it down without breaking stride. This is a hard play to defend when the ball is thrown quickly. Mac's offense really depends on a QB that can survey the field and make quick decisions. Franks is still showing a tendency to throw the ball high.

That ball hit Powell right in the #4. Not high at all, IMO. Edit: okay maybe I got my videos mixed up - watching on my phone. Somebody say high?

 

[NavetG8r]

That ball hit Powell right in the #4. Not high at all, IMO.

It was a little high. But he was also throwing it over the ref.

 

[GatorBart]

There you have it, every Franks pass from the spring game.

Franks was 8 of 14 for 199 yards and a TD. He also took one sack. By my count Franks threw 4 passes high.

He appears to have the potential to be a very good QB. He certainly possesses the physical skills. As he matures, gains experience and learns the game I think he will become a very good QB with the potential to be a great one.

It appears that he is our best option at the current time even if he is still a little green. If he can take care of the ball, find the open receiver and get rid of it quickly then I think he can be successful this season. However, he has to stop throwing it high as those are potential interceptions.

Thanks for posting these 2x4!

 

[GatorBart]

It was a little high. But he was also throwing it over the ref.

I edited my post - last night in Hanalei and I've had few mai tais and some edibles from home.

 

[Gator2222]

I edited my post - last night in Hanalei and I've had few mai tais and some edibles from home.

I love Kauai. Beautiful island. Gotta love the open air airport.

Maui is my favorite island though.

 

[LagoonGator68]

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[EuroGator]

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All caps, huh?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I commented to Law that if Raymond can get into the 275 range he has a legitimate chance to play some downs this year.

Well, he is probably playing DT just because we had none, not because he has gained much weight. However, I do suspect he is closer to 255- maybe maybe 260. He is still smaller than CeCe. He did outshine Kyree Campbell by a wide margin, even when they flopped sides.

He did struggle more with Tyler Jordan at RG than with Slow Fred.

Freshmen Dts shouldn't ever be on the field in the SEC. Maybe we do see him in games. At this point, who knows.

 

[GatorTAG]

This is what concerns me about Franks.

I've seen another QB recently that turns his hand upside down like that on his windup.

Blake Bortles is another big strong athletic guy with a long windup that throws a lot of interceptions. He came into the NFL with this motion and threw 17 INTs his rookie year. He saw a throwing coach after that year and somewhat cleaned it up. His second season he threw for 4,500 yards, 35 TD's but still had 18 INTs. He admitted he didn't go back to his throwing coach after 2015 and his throwing motion was a mess last year. He ended 2016 with only 23 TD's and 16 INTs. Blake has all the talent, work ethics and ability in the world to be a top notch QB but he has to fix this throwing motion. This little "hitch" in his motion makes him routinely late and behind his receivers and gives DBs time to react.

I understand the need for a bigger windup on a deeper pass, but Blake and Felipe have the same windup even on short 10 yard passes. This will cause accuracy issues in tight windows.

Feleipe may get away with it some in college like Blake did but if he doesn't shorten that windup he'll continue to be a turnover machine.

Here's a guy thats known for a quick release. Notice the ball is up high and not upside down. This allows him to aim and shoot.

He's not nearly as big and strong or athletic as Bortles or Franks but his throwing motion has served him well.

 

[BMF]

Well, he is probably playing DT just because we had none, not because he has gained much weight. However, I do suspect he is closer to 255- maybe maybe 260. He is still smaller than CeCe. He did outshine Kyree Campbell by a wide margin, even when they flopped sides.

He did struggle more with Tyler Jordan at RG than with Slow Fred.

Freshmen Dts shouldn't ever be on the field in the SEC. Maybe we do see him in games. At this point, who knows.

Oh, I agree on why he was playing DT. The fact that he played more downs than Ancrum, Campbell, and Desir-Jones was a surprise.....and he held his own against the 1's. You're probably right on his weight. And when I suggest he may get on the field, I'm just saying in situational downs and/or in mop up. After his performance in the O&B game I think he's earned it (if the game situation is right - obviously he's not likely to be playing vs. the Michigan's, LSU's, FSU's). And again, if he gets up to the 275+ range I think he will play some legit downs.

As far as the true freshman, I tend to agree. But at the size of the 3 we're bringing in I think they can play. Especially on a 3rd and 1 type down. All they have to do is bull rush, not really worry about technique. OL's are not used to going against 330+ pound DT's (most are closer to 300-310 range). And if Slaton plays at 350? That's a heck of a load.

I'm hoping Desir-Jones gets over 300 and can play 10+ snaps/game. That would give us 3 or 4 upper classman at 300+ (if Riles plays DT this year).

Polite looked way too small to be a DT. Also, I saw him nearly run down Calloway on a pass play...it was pretty impressive. He's fast. But I suspect he's the next hybrid (Bullard type) that plays inside and outside. He's probably no bigger than he was last year (270).

 

[Gator Fever]

That was a bigger setup game than usual with so many walk on DBs running around when Franks was in there. Not sure what to think of him but nothing really gives me confidence he can read a defense well in true game situations. A lot of following his 1st reads around during that game except for dumping a few passes off. One thing for sure is if he starts we will know real quick whether he can produce under pressure with how Michigan brings the house most plays until you burn them repeatedly for doing it.

 

[maheo30]

The spring game tells you his mechanics are vastly improved. Still, they are also why he'll be erratic as we've seen. I think he's going to commit a large amount of turnovers this year unless we can run the ball well enough to protect him. What I like the most about Franks is the speed of his development. That gives me a lot of hope.

 

[URGatorBait]

The spring game tells you his mechanics are vastly improved. Still, they are also why he'll be erratic as we've seen. I think he's going to commit a large amount of turnovers this year unless we can run the ball well enough to protect him. What I like the most about Franks is the speed of his development. That gives me a lot of hope.

I do think Franks will have his share of turnovers, but quite frankly, if he's averaging 2-3 TD's per turnover, then I think he'll be doing fine.
I get the impression that he learns from his mistakes and works to correct them quickly as you suggest with his development. I'm looking forward to seeing him start this season.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

That was a bigger setup game than usual with so many walk on DBs running around when Franks was in there.

I wish they'd just play offense vs defense.

 

[ThreatMatrix]

This is what concerns me about Franks.

I've seen another QB recently that turns his hand upside down like that on his windup.

Blake Bortles is another big strong athletic guy with a long windup that throws a lot of interceptions. He came into the NFL with this motion and threw 17 INTs his rookie year. He saw a throwing coach after that year and somewhat cleaned it up. His second season he threw for 4,500 yards, 35 TD's but still had 18 INTs. He admitted he didn't go back to his throwing coach after 2015 and his throwing motion was a mess last year. He ended 2016 with only 23 TD's and 16 INTs. Blake has all the talent, work ethics and ability in the world to be a top notch QB but he has to fix this throwing motion. This little "hitch" in his motion makes him routinely late and behind his receivers and gives DBs time to react.

I understand the need for a bigger windup on a deeper pass, but Blake and Felipe have the same windup even on short 10 yard passes. This will cause accuracy issues in tight windows.

Feleipe may get away with it some in college like Blake did but if he doesn't shorten that windup he'll continue to be a turnover machine.

Here's a guy thats known for a quick release. Notice the ball is up high and not upside down. This allows him to aim and shoot.

He's not nearly as big and strong or athletic as Bortles or Franks but his throwing motion has served him well.

That's interesting but I don't see him doing that in any of the spring game passes. Maybe it's fixed.

 

[GatorTAG]

That's interesting but I don't see him doing that in any of the spring game passes. Maybe it's fixed.

It's hard to see in .gifs because they're so choppy. If you look at the first clip up there you can pick up where he drops his hand real low. Also on the 12th post you can see his hand drop upside down like that nad he is late and behind the receiver.

It's something that is correctable with work. Bortles fights it and has been going to work with Tom House during the offseason. After his second season in which he threw for all those yards and touchdowns he thought he had it corrected and so he didn't work with House after 2015. His throwing motion was terrible last year and he struggled mightly with accuracy. He said he would be back working with House this offseason.

The funny thing is guys like him and Franks could probably throw it 20 yards with a flick of their wrist. But they have tought themselves this motion and it's a hard habit to break. Franks will get away with it against lesser competition in college but the better teams will eat him up. He'll pad his stats against the creampuffs but LSU, FSU and better teams like that will pick him off.

 

[GatorTAG]

This set loads up the right side with 4 receivers. That forces a mismatch with sophomore LB Knight forced to cover Powell. Powell easily gets open, but the pass is slightly high and behind giving Knight the chance to make a play on the ball. If Franks leads Powell this is an easy TD.

The good news is that Franks was able to identify the mismatch. It appears that he is starting to grasp the mental side of the game.

The first thing I saw on this play when it was live was Perine standing wide open next to the pylon. After watching this clip I'm further convinced that this was a blown red zone opportunity. Either Powell or Perine should have been hit for the TD. But if your going to say Franks reconized a mismatch I don't think there is much more of a mismatch than Perine versus a 5'9" walk-on DB. Powell is a little target in tight space with a big DE hanging on him. I would imagine Powell was the primary target but it was going to take a perfect throw to complete. He should have checked down and thrown it low to the pylon.

I said it during the game I'm not a fan or our bunched up formations. I wish we would spread the receivers out and open up these throwing lanes a little.

 

[Gatorraid81]

This is an interesting set with Goolsby, Powell and Scarlett in the backfield. That set is hard for a defense to read and allows a lot of possibilities. After the snap all three run a route and we end up with 5 receivers. Mac's offense relies on the scheme finding the soft spots in the coverage and this play accomplishes that nicely. All of the receivers are open. As soon as he gets the snap Franks stares at the spot he is going to throw to and never looks away. The throw is just a tiny bit late. Franks knows where he is going to put the ball and is staring at it waiting for Powell to arrive, but he waits a little long and Powell has to stop and wait for the ball. If he throws that ball as Powell is cutting it would hit him in stride. He sort of makes up for the timing by gunning the ball. He can certainly get it there quick. This play forces the LB Moon to choose which receiver to cover as 3 of them run right by him. Moon makes a good decision and shows nice speed in making the tackle.

Make fun of Nuss all you want, but this is a very nicely designed play.

Could've hit Goolsby for a bigger gain, but I guess given the situation, take the sure first down and keep the chains moving.

 

[gatormandan]

take the sure first down and keep the chains moving.

Yes. Something they need to be doing on a regular basis.