Mullen officially signs six-year, $36.6 million deal at UF

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So, really, what you're saying is anyone with a pulse and a pen and paper has a championship ceiling. Either that or it really does come down to eeny meeny miny moe.

BTW, Moe coached here from 2011-14.
 

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I'm pointing out the absurd oversimplification of your mission statement. Of course you want a coach with a championship ceiling. The only guys with a known ceiling that high are already taken.

The rest is sheer conjecture. Look where that's gotten us over the past 10.
 

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We're back to square one. Who? We struck out on Kelly and Frost. Who at that point was the guy with a championship ceiling we should have been talking to?
 

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Bill Belichick had compiled a record of 36-44 in five seasons at Cleveland, going 5-11 the final year. He cut Kosar the Queer midway through the '93 season, a highly controversial move. In spite of assurances from Modell that he would coach the team in its inaugural season in Baltimore, Belichick was dumped.

Mediocre. Capped. Branded.

And so Belichick once again found himself riding the coat tails of Parcells for a few seasons before, following the strange last-minute resignation as the new Parcells-arranged head coach of the Jets, he jumped ship for New England.

Robert Kraft is good at a lot of things. One of them is seeing gold where others see dust. He not only hired the heretofore mediocre Belichick, he gave him near complete control of football operations. Yes, he took a monumental chance.

I'm not trying to equate Mullen with Belichick. What I'm saying is you would be utterly surprised at the places where you sometimes find a championship ceiling coach.
 

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Bill Belichick had compiled a record of 36-44 in five seasons at Cleveland, going 5-11 the final year. He cut Kosar the Queer midway through the '93 season, a highly controversial move. In spite of assurances from Modell that he would coach the team in its inaugural season in Baltimore, Belichick was dumped.

Mediocre. Capped. Branded.

And so Belichick once again found himself riding the coat tails of Parcells for a few seasons before, following the strange last-minute resignation as the new Parcells-arranged head coach of the Jets, he jumped ship for New England.

Robert Kraft is good at a lot of things. One of them is seeing gold where others see dust. He not only hired the heretofore mediocre Belichick, he gave him near complete control of football operations. Yes, he took a monumental chance.

I'm not trying to equate Mullen with Belichick. What I'm saying is you would be utterly surprised at the places where you sometimes find a championship ceiling coach.

'78 I understand your premise between the two, but would you say that a 5 year coach on a team that is leaving city is the same sample size as a 9 year coach in a pretty steady environment?
 

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'78 I understand your premise between the two, but would you say that a 5 year coach on a team that is leaving city is the same sample size as a 9 year coach in a pretty steady environment?
I would say the city of Cleveland had zero to do with Belichick's record there.
 

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I would say the city of Cleveland had zero to do with Belichick's record there.

I'm referring to the organization not the city..... but you knew that.
 

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Simple question: Why do I read here so often concern that we overpaid for Mullen and the fact that UF is still paying Chimp and Butters is so frequently lamented? It's not our money!!!
 

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I think the philosophical differences here are largely because some want to win it all, and now, while others are just done losing and would prefer steadying the ship, returning respectability and then hoping that ultimately leads something better. Neither is necessarily wrong. I'm more in the camp that we couldn't role the dice on an unproven guy. That's one of the signature reasons we're in this predicament in the first place. But as such, and based on the availability at the time, I don't think either of the last two hires were terrible on paper. Whether they both turn out to be bad remains to be seen. The only thing I think we did, without question, is over pay. That said, if by chance he's successful here, we could argue that Stricklin made the right decision to keep us from a ut-type search nightmare. But again, I think some of that was because he allowed things to become public too much, and it looked like we were shot down for lesser programs by our first two targets.

I think we underestimate the timing element of things. Imagine if Darnell had done just enough to warrant a shot after 1989 and Spurrier goes elsewhere. Or we wait until after the 2004 season to make a move from Zook, and the fsu win keeps him here another season. Our entire history looks a lot different. We've been fortunate in that respect, because I don't know of anyone other than SS and UM that would've accomplished what they did. Where the story turns south, is that's exactly the opposite of what we did in 2013, when a guy like Franklin was available. Even Strong, I think, could've stepped in at that point and kept us from completely falling over the edge. As it is, the wasted search time in 2010, the failure to take decisive action in 2013, and the window that we left ourselves with in 2014 are the reasons we're here. So considering that, I'm still ok with the hire, namely because while I'm not sure he's the right guy, I'm equally confident he's not the wrong guy.
 

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Bill Belichick had compiled a record of 36-44 in five seasons at Cleveland, going 5-11 the final year.
:lmao2:

Yeah yeah yeah, every losing coach is Belichick.

Enjoy just praying to get bowl eligible the next three years.

I predict an Independence Bowl, maybe, in Year 3. Louisiana is beautiful in December
 

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:lmao2:

Yeah yeah yeah, every losing coach is Belichick.

Enjoy just praying to get bowl eligible the next three years.

I predict an Independence Bowl, maybe, in Year 3. Louisiana is beautiful in December
Remember Bernie during the 2016 campaign? No matter the debate question, he had three talking points, nothing more. Didn't matter the question. You were getting the same answer regardless.

1) Wall Street is corrupt. Tax the shyt out of the mother humpers.
2) The Iraq war was wrong.
3) We're effing the environment.

Law is the new Bernie.
 

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Remember when we hired SOS and won the SEC immediately?

And hired CUM and he won it innthe second year but went 9-3 the first year.

You know when you hired a champion. The players know too. The team looks different immediately. Some leave the team but the others just look different.

You also know when you hire a Mushchimo, McElstain or Mullinz. It is just same shyt different year with them.

A never ending excusathon. Cant recruit before 4 years. Cant win w these recruits. Cant recruit w these facilities. Its gonna be a six year rebuild, maybe 8-10 bc facilities are four years out.

Just hoping we arent 0-8. What humiliations are left?
 

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Remember when we hired SOS and won the SEC immediately?

And hired CUM and he won it innthe second year but went 9-3 the first year.

You know when you hired a champion. The players know too. The team looks different immediately. Some leave the team but the others just look different.

You also know when you hire a Mushchimo, McElstain or Mullinz. It is just same shyt different year with them.

A never ending excusathon. Cant recruit before 4 years. Cant win w these recruits. Cant recruit w these facilities. Its gonna be a six year rebuild, maybe 8-10 bc facilities are four years out.

Just hoping we arent 0-8. What humiliations are left?
To your left, Law. Take a wipe. There's shyt dripping from your ear.

You knew you hired a champion. Good Lord. You've wasted no fewer than 100 posts berating Meyer's dumb decision over the OC.

King of the hindsight call.
 

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6 pages too late so idk if anybody said this but the light in the tunnel here I guess is that we now prove we are at least willing to spend the money. The nack nationally about Florida is they wouldn’t spend money. Muschamp has done plenty of anonymous interviews blasting Florida for this and now this monkey is off the back. Either way we over spent (unless maybe Tennessee had offered close to it when they offered)
 

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