It was just a matter of time

[soflagator]

Name a player on our team that isn’t SEC caliber. You’re saying they aren’t good enough to play for Ole Miss or Vandy or Miss St. or Kentucky?

I’d say the majority of our OLine, both backups at CB and a few along the DL would fit that description.

All the LBs would play for the lower rung teams, but are not elite. They’ve just been playing above their grade.

But even if they do measure up to those teams’ standards, are you ok with the record those teams routinely put up?

 

[alcoholica]

I’d say the majority of our OLine, both backups at CB and a few along the DL would fit that description.

All the LBs would play for the lower rung teams, but are not elite. They’ve just been playing above their grade.

But even if they do measure up to those teams’ standards, are you ok with the record those teams routinely put up?

Well Dean is a backup CB and he's pretty good IMO

 

[NVGator]

McWilliams and Stiner for starters

So these guys shouldn’t be playing in Arkansas or Tennessee or Vandy or MSU? These are Mountain West caliber talent?

 

[lizardbreath]

Well Dean is a backup CB and he's pretty good IMO

Totally agree, but he's Mullen's recruit isn't he? Just sayin.'

 

[soflagator]

Well Dean is a backup CB and he's pretty good IMO

And he’d start as an upperclassman at most SEC schools. But not as a Freshman for a top tier SEC program.

 

[NVGator]

I’d say the majority of our OLine, both backups at CB and a few along the DL would fit that description.

All the LBs would play for the lower rung teams, but are not elite. They’ve just been playing above their grade.

But even if they do measure up to those teams’ standards, are you ok with the record those teams routinely put up?

So, Reese is low rung? Joseph is just D2 level, despite his performance for LSU? Ok, I guess.

 

[alcoholica]

And he’d start as an upperclassman at most SEC schools. But not as a Freshman for a top tier SEC program.

Oh I don't know, probably a lot of SEC schools that would like to have him starting for them this year.

 

[soflagator]

So, Reese is low rung? Joseph is just D2 level, despite his performance for LSU? Ok, I guess.

I don’t want to knock our players, but if I’m being honest, neither would be in the 2-deep during Meyer or Spurrier’s tenure.

They are our current version of good.

 

[oxrageous]

All 3 turnovers had nothing to do w/ coaching and/or play calling. That was on the players (Franks & Scarlett) not protecting the ball. It was actually pretty sad.

Bingo. If those inexcusable, idiotic things don't happen, UF wins this game. That's what really bugs me. You know guys are going to swiping at the ball, hold on to the damn thing.

On defense, we needed SOMEONE to step up and make ONE play on a 3rd down. Never happened. No one wanted to make a play today.

Extremely disappointing.

 

[lizardbreath]

Bingo. If those inexcusable, idiotic things don't happen, UF wins this game. That's what really bugs me. You know guys are going to swiping at the ball, hold on to the damn thing.

On defense, we needed SOMEONE to step up and make ONE play on a 3rd down. Never happened. No one wanted to make a play today.

Extremely disappointing.

Yup.

 

[soflagator]

Bingo. If those inexcusable, idiotic things don't happen, UF wins this game. That's what really bugs me. You know guys are going to swiping at the ball, hold on to the damn thing.

On defense, we needed SOMEONE to step up and make ONE play on a 3rd down. Never happened. No one wanted to make a play today.

Extremely disappointing.

The 3rd down conversions were the worst and most troubling to me. We can knock Fromm all we want, but unfortunately that’s the exact same formula Saban has used for the last decade and a half. His QB isn’t the star, but seems to make the clutch plays when he needs to, virtually every time.

It’s worrisome unless we just start blowing teams out.

 

[NVGator]

I don’t want to knock our players, but if I’m being honest, neither would be in the 2-deep during Meyer or Spurrier’s tenure.

They are our current version of good.

Wait wait wait wait.... we are only comparing our talent to Meyer and Spurrier level? Not the other teams in the conference?

 

[78]

The 3rd down conversions were the worst and most troubling to me. We can knock Fromm all we want, but unfortunately that’s the exact same formula Saban has used for the last decade and a half. His QB isn’t the star, but seems to make the clutch plays when he needs to, virtually every time.

It’s worrisome unless we just start blowing teams out.

Fromm is perfect for that offense. Just make the incremental plays and occasionally throw downfield. I didn't think he'd hurt us as much as he did downfield.

 

[FireFoley]

Fromm is perfect for that offense. Just make the incremental plays and occasionally throw downfield. I didn't think he'd hurt us as much as he did downfield.

I think it was mainly b/c we got very little pressure on Fromm. When that happens he can be very good b/c he does not get confused often and we really do not have the talent to cover receivers for a decent amount of time nor the ability to disguise anything we do in the secondary. If we can force quick throws or get good pressure on the QB, then our secondary can maintain. Otherwise we are pretty much in trouble.

 

[MissouriGator]

Talent had nothing to do with losing this game.
Turnovers and Grantham shi**ing the bed in the second half is what lost this game.
We all know that Franks is not going to win the game for us. He made some mistakes and there were a few questionable calls on offense, but overall it was a well called game on offense.
We didn't execute on offense when we needed--turned it over and missed some big plays.
Not pressuring Fromm on third down is what cost us the most.
I'm not putting the blame on Franks or Mullen.

 

[soflagator]

Wait wait wait wait.... we are only comparing our talent to Meyer and Spurrier level? Not the other teams in the conference?

Well my point was that it is not to the level that you and I have become accustomed to over the years. Not UF standard, which is when we were racking up the wins that made today’s loss a disappointment, not the norm.

But if we’re using the conference standard, as I said, half or more of our team wouldn’t start and the ones that do would probably play for a team whose record you’d not accept.

 

[78]

I think it was mainly b/c we got very little pressure on Fromm. When that happens he can be very good b/c he does not get confused often and we really do not have the talent to cover receivers for a decent amount of time nor the ability to disguise anything we do in the secondary. If we can force quick throws or get good pressure on the QB, then our secondary can maintain. Otherwise we are pretty much in trouble.

That's the problem. They don't call a lot of downfield stuff that calls for him standing in the pocket long. A lot of quick reads and rollouts. You never really get a clean shot at him.

 

[soflagator]

I think it was mainly b/c we got very little pressure on Fromm. When that happens he can be very good b/c he does not get confused often and we really do not have the talent to cover receivers for a decent amount of time nor the ability to disguise anything we do in the secondary. If we can force quick throws or get good pressure on the QB, then our secondary can maintain. Otherwise we are pretty much in trouble.

It’s why I thought Polite would be a big factor in the game, better or worse. Unfortunately, it was his being a non-factor that was the difference.

 

[NVGator]

Talent had nothing to do with losing this game.
Turnovers and Grantham shi**ing the bed in the second half is what lost this game.
We all know that Franks is not going to win the game for us. He made some mistakes and there were a few questionable calls on offense, but overall it was a well called game on offense.
We didn't execute on offense when we needed--turned it over and missed some big plays.
Not pressuring Fromm on third down is what cost us the most.
I'm not putting the blame on Franks or Mullen.

This won’t end well.

 

[NVGator]

Well my point was that it is not to the level that you and I have become accustomed to over the years. Not UF standard, which is when we were racking up the wins that made today’s loss a disappointment, not the norm.

But if we’re using the conference standard, as I said, half or more of our team wouldn’t start and the ones that do would probably play for a team whose record you’d not accept.

B fcvking S but whatevs.