Does This Explain Why Jim is Unhappy?

[oxrageous]

Love your posts, sofla, but I am only half joking. I disagree on the perception question. I think a lot of SEC fans view us as having Bama like sense of entitlement without bama's winning record. I also think that the perception of a spoiled attitude could hurt us in attracting a new coach if we're not careful.

First off, I don't think a prospective coach worth a damn would ever consider the attitude of the fan base in making his choice. If you do your damn job and are successful, the fans will lay down in traffic for you. Any coach worrying about the fans on his way in would be a miserable failure. Frankly, I'm tired of Gator fans being shat all over by the holier-than-thou among us.

Secondly, I could not possibly care less what other SEC fan bases think of us - they can take a flying **** at a rolling donut. As far as a "sense of entitlement" about winning, we HAVE won 3 NC's in the last 20 years - we're not UGA. We've reached the mountaintop repeatedly.

This is like those weirdos that wring their hands about what Europeans think of Americans. Why the eff would you care about that?

 

[ufgator812]

Muschamp was exceptional at coaching defense. What's Butter's claim to fame?

 

[Marianna-FL_Gator]

So...he wants out? The picture is coming together now and explains why we always stop doing the things that are successful and start running toss sweeps on 4th and 1. Dude is tanking the offense on purpose

 

[jdh5484]

How would Saban/Meyer or Spurrier react?

How about the Zooker?

 

[Ancient Reptile]

First off, I don't think a prospective coach worth a damn would ever consider the attitude of the fan base in making his choice. If you do your damn job and are successful, the fans will lay down in traffic for you. Any coach worrying about the fans on his way in would be a miserable failure. Frankly, I'm tired of Gator fans being shat all over by the holier-than-thou among us.

Secondly, I could not possibly care less what other SEC fan bases think of us - they can take a flying **** at a rolling donut. As far as a "sense of entitlement" about winning, we HAVE won 3 NC's in the last 20 years - we're not UGA. We've reached the mountaintop repeatedly.

This is like those weirdos that wring their hands about what Europeans think of Americans. Why the eff would you care about that?

Do you agree that Urban left because of fan attitude and maybe Spurrier, but somehow it is never thought of when they are coming? Oh! And both coaches won NCs at UF before fan attitude drove both away. Guess the fans weren't prostrating themselves in traffic for NC winning coaches.

 

[revgator]

How would Saban/Meyer or Spurrier react?

How about the Zooker?

This Is really odd. The body language speaks volumes.

I don't like this one bit.

This is not urban with his arm around Tebow. This an 8 year old girl with dirty clothes and unkempt hair grabbing a 12 pack of mountain dew for her morbidly obese mother in a electric cart at Wal-Mart.

 

[MJMGator]

Do you agree that Urban left because of fan attitude and maybe Spurrier, but somehow it is never thought of when they are coming? Oh! And both coaches won NCs at UF before fan attitude drove both away. Guess the fans weren't prostrating themselves in traffic for NC winning coaches.

 

[T REX]

Do you agree that Urban left because of fan attitude and maybe Spurrier, but somehow it is never thought of when they are coming? Oh! And both coaches won NCs at UF before fan attitude drove both away. Guess the fans weren't prostrating themselves in traffic for NC winning coaches.

SOS left for the biggest nfl contract in history. Fans? Total bull spit.

#fakenews

 

[Frozen Gator]

Do you agree that Urban left because of fan attitude and maybe Spurrier, but somehow it is never thought of when they are coming? Oh! And both coaches won NCs at UF before fan attitude drove both away. Guess the fans weren't prostrating themselves in traffic for NC winning coaches.

I think Spurrier left because of Foley (Darnell Dockett, always on the cheap, etc); I think Meyer recruited some bad people and knew it would catch up to him if he stayed. It worked out well for him, nice vacation, million or so from espn, HC job at an equally prestigious university. It's fun for me to watch the SOB lose.

 

[78]

Spurrier had been flirting with the idea of the NFL for years. So much so that he negotiated in his UF contract a 30-day window after each season where he was permitted to talk to NFL teams.

It was common knowledge that he was year to year on the subject of leaving for the NFL. It had zero to do with the fans. As Bianchi, who became a confidante, said at the time, he was ready.

Meyer? He's a fruitcake. Who the hell knows why he melted. I don't think it had anything to do with the fans. He's just wired different.

 

[oxrageous]

Do you agree that Urban left because of fan attitude and maybe Spurrier, but somehow it is never thought of when they are coming?

No. Not at all.

 

[Gator Fever]

Spurrier definitely wanted to see how he would do in the NFL. If we didn't have the Machen - Meyer situation when Zook was canned Spurrier wouldn't have had a problem coming back to UF to coach I would think.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

Spurrier had been flirting with the idea of the NFL for years. So much so that he negotiated in his UF contract a 30-day window after each season where he was permitted to talk to NFL teams.

It was common knowledge that he was year to year on the subject of leaving for the NFL. It had zero to do with the fans. As Bianchi, who became a confidante, said at the time, he was ready.

Meyer? He's a fruitcake. Who the hell knows why he melted. I don't think it had anything to do with the fans. He's just wired different.

If we were discussing reality, you may well have a point on Spurrier. But several media accounts have surfaced suggesting he was not enchanted with the fans. There is certainly a perception that the fans played a role in his decision.
Ox and others on Meyer have a more difficult job. Shelley's remarks on the fans have been widely disseminated and assuredly played a role in the decision to leave. Reality and perception both suggest UF is viewed as having run off a NC winning coach.

 

[divits]

If we were discussing reality, you may well have a point on Spurrier. But several media accounts have surfaced suggesting he was not enchanted with the fans. There is certainly a perception that the fans played a role in his decision.
Ox and others on Meyer have a more difficult job. Shelley's remarks on the fans have been widely disseminated and assuredly played a role in the decision to leave. Reality and perception both suggest UF is viewed as having run off a NC winning coach.

Meyer "broke" the program. He ditched while the ditchin' was good. If he quit because of something on a fan message board he's a bigger pussy that even I thought.

Spurrier, from day one as our coach, said that, "nothing is permanent". He never denied possible interest in the pros. Some grumblings from some fans don't effect decisions involving millions of dollars. You're delusional.

 

[Ancient Reptile]

First off, I don't think a prospective coach worth a damn would ever consider the attitude of the fan base in making his choice. If you do your damn job and are successful, the fans will lay down in traffic for you. Any coach worrying about the fans on his way in would be a miserable failure. Frankly, I'm tired of Gator fans being shat all over by the holier-than-thou among us.

Secondly, I could not possibly care less what other SEC fan bases think of us - they can take a flying **** at a rolling donut. As far as a "sense of entitlement" about winning, we HAVE won 3 NC's in the last 20 years - we're not UGA. We've reached the mountaintop repeatedly.

This is like those weirdos that wring their hands about what Europeans think of Americans. Why the eff would you care about that?

UF may well and rightly choose to live happily with its reputation, but be sure that there are consequences. My State of residence deals with the consequences of having a Confederate flag in the upper left corner of its state flag daily.
Here's a concrete example. National accounting firm has a management position in Mississippi. Wants to fill it from its Florida office. Offers it to one senior CPA who turns it down as does a second
Loves Florida too much and they abhor Mississippi. Third CPA takes promotion finds she and her family adore the state. Likes her job so much she quickly gets further promotions and raises. Love the golf courses, fishing, neighbors, etc. Now neither MS nor the firm lost. Got a good manager and citizen. What they did lose was options. Had to take a third choice.
Here's the point. If UF's reputation forces a third choice for our next coach we might still get a good coach and the right man, but I guarantee that Ox and half the board will melt down at having been refused twice.

 

[divits]

UF may well and rightly choose to live happily with its reputation, but be sure that there are consequences. My State of residence deals with the consequences of having a Confederate flag in the upper left corner of its state flag daily.
Here's a concrete example. National accounting firm has a management position in Mississippi. Wants to fill it from its Florida office. Offers it to one senior CPA who turns it down as does a second
Loves Florida too much and they abhor Mississippi. Third CPA takes promotion finds she and her family adore the state. Likes her job so much she quickly gets further promotions and raises. Love the golf courses, fishing, neighbors, etc. Now neither MS nor the firm lost. Got a good manager and citizen. What they did lose was options. Had to take a third choice.
Here's the point. If UF's reputation forces a third choice for our next coach we might still get a good coach and the right man, but I guarantee that Ox and half the board will melt down at having been refused twice.

WTF?

 

[Ancient Reptile]

WTF?

I quite understand. It was too long for you and NV to read.

 

[rogdochar]

I fully understood that Ancient and I read it backwards. :D

 

[Ancient Reptile]

I fully understood that Ancient and I read it backwards. :D

In a mirror?

 

[rogdochar]

In a mirror?

No mirrors allowed in my house.