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oxrageous;n115528 said:
You would rather have Stoops though right? I would.
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You would rather have Stoops though right? I would.
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oxrageous;n115674 said:
Thought so. I hope there is some truth to that article. We can meet up in Gville and carry him on our shoulders....
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Ray Finkle;n115647 said:
Finkle beat me to it. Here is the tweet..
Source: Bob Stoops is the favorite right now to be the next #Gators head coach: http://www.www.inallkindsofweather.com/blog/source-bob-stoops-is-the-favorite-to-be-the-next-gator-head-coachReply
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beaniemonk
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OK, a couple more thoughts on the Jay Gruden scenario before I let it go (I realize this made it's rounds, but I just now had time to come back)...
Regardless of what we think, he is exactly who Foley is looking for in terms of experience, age, and offensive background. And he's the quintessential Foley hire -- while everyone is zigging between the usual names, he's a zag that nobody would see coming. He's actually a very highly-regarded coach, interviewed or asked to be interviewed by no less than 7 NFL teams since 2011 for a head coaching position.
I think it's an over-generalization to say he's an NFL guy, an argument which seems based partially on his brother, who appears perfectly content in a booth instead of on the sidelines. Circumstances involving AFL bankruptcy is what ended his tenure with the Predators. It’s just as likely he wants to be a head coach -- ideally in Florida -- more.
Which leads me to this… I think he’s exactly the kind of guy that would stick around if afforded the opportunity, if you're willing to speculate on how much his experience in Washington has soured him -- dealing with politics and overrated prima donna franchise players. There’s a reason many coaches – great coaches even – test the waters in the NFL only to leave shortly thereafter.
I also respectfully but totally disagree on his ability to attract recruits. I haven’t personally asked any high school players for their opinion, LOL, but I think it’s on par with most of the names being mentioned, aside from Stoops or the pipe dreams like Kelly and Harbaugh.
I’d be perfectly happy with Stoops, or to a lesser extent Freeze, but I’m just not as excited about those names as everyone else appears to be. Personally, Jay feels like the home-run hire we don’t think is out there, and I know I'm in the minority here.
I do think concern about his lack of college coaching experience is 100% legitimate, and may be the biggest knock against him. I think it’s very likely we won’t hire him, but will find out later he was much more of a serious candidate than we knew at the time.
Regardless of what we think, he is exactly who Foley is looking for in terms of experience, age, and offensive background. And he's the quintessential Foley hire -- while everyone is zigging between the usual names, he's a zag that nobody would see coming. He's actually a very highly-regarded coach, interviewed or asked to be interviewed by no less than 7 NFL teams since 2011 for a head coaching position.
I think it's an over-generalization to say he's an NFL guy, an argument which seems based partially on his brother, who appears perfectly content in a booth instead of on the sidelines. Circumstances involving AFL bankruptcy is what ended his tenure with the Predators. It’s just as likely he wants to be a head coach -- ideally in Florida -- more.
Which leads me to this… I think he’s exactly the kind of guy that would stick around if afforded the opportunity, if you're willing to speculate on how much his experience in Washington has soured him -- dealing with politics and overrated prima donna franchise players. There’s a reason many coaches – great coaches even – test the waters in the NFL only to leave shortly thereafter.
I also respectfully but totally disagree on his ability to attract recruits. I haven’t personally asked any high school players for their opinion, LOL, but I think it’s on par with most of the names being mentioned, aside from Stoops or the pipe dreams like Kelly and Harbaugh.
I’d be perfectly happy with Stoops, or to a lesser extent Freeze, but I’m just not as excited about those names as everyone else appears to be. Personally, Jay feels like the home-run hire we don’t think is out there, and I know I'm in the minority here.
I do think concern about his lack of college coaching experience is 100% legitimate, and may be the biggest knock against him. I think it’s very likely we won’t hire him, but will find out later he was much more of a serious candidate than we knew at the time.
beaniemonk
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P.S. -> I put precisely 0 stock into what Neil Shulman is saying. I think he's getting his information from the same rumors that everyone else is.
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Nice analysis on Jay Gruden. There's absolutely no chance he's even spoken to, but it's nice to throw another name out to extend the conversation.
Now get an avatar beanie before I have to give you one.
Now get an avatar beanie before I have to give you one.
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t-gator;n115724 said:
Watch RGIII crash and burn.
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t-gator;n115724 said:
Your mom?
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Hope the Stoops rumors are true. Might hurt recuiting if he isnt hired until after their bowl game. But just his name could be a big boost until then.
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We are going to need a boost. Fingers crossed!
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Ray Finkle;n115032 said:
Fans like you publicly pining for coaches that are in no way realistic candidates for our job make our fan base look as pathetic as the Chuggers with their Gruden delusions.
Let's review one more time:
- By making it to the NFL and HAVING SUCCESS there, Chip Kelly has almost reached the pinnacle of his profession. All that is left is some playoff success and winning a Super Bowl.
- Coaches, by their very nature a competitive lot, are unlikely to leave a higher level of their profession WHERE THEY ARE HAVING SUCCESS, to compete at a lower level, regardless of how great we think the job is.
- All of the coaches that have been cited as leaving the NFL to return to college, including SOS, Saban, Petrino - hell, even Lou Holtz, WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL in the NFL.
- Another oft-cited example - Pete Carroll - did return to college after a mediocre run in the NFL - then, wait for it.....scooted back to the NFL at the first available opportunity.
- Kelly left Oregon under a cloud of recruiting, um, "suspicion" is probably the best word. I've read he might have issues with the NCAA if he wanted to return and even if that is not the case, his issues probably do not tick the "character box" next to his name on Foley's list.
And I'll thank you to leave my "dickbeaters" alone.
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