Luke Ancrum calls out Hevesy on twitter

[neteng]

Still don't see anyone out of touch with that sentiment. He just busted in and said erbody is out of touch about something that nobody is saying anything to counter to his point. Maybe he misread stuff.

 

[oxrageous]

If some little twerp decides not to become a Gator because of this, then do we really want the dork?

 

[Thick&ThinG8r]

I think you are selling the parents of most elite recruits short by thinking this would be considered a bad thing. And that's without even knowing the context of the whole conversation.

 

[neteng]

I did see Ox statement and don't really disagree with it either nor see it a this or that point of contention. Ancrum is a twattwaffle. Future players influenced by Ancrum could probably be twattwaffles. Hevesy is rough around the edges and probably doesn't touch the hearts of young players. Hevesy told Ancrum what was probably true and taken out of context. All of those things can be true and don't discount each other. So ... not sure what the point is with being out of touch.

 

[oxrageous]

So we should just roll over and cater to the ignorant or sensitive or easily offended? I simply don’t agree.

 

[aka]

I mean, I doubt any recruit out there is hoping to be the next Luke Ancrum anyway. How much weight could it carry? Is everybody saying this or should it be taken in context? That's what they'll be thinking.

 

[Renard904]

What's your point and how are we out of touch? It's out there now matter how deeply we look at it. I think you're out of touch. A twattwaffle is a twattwaffle and they need to be called out on their twattwaffleness. Real men go to another man directly to solve a problem. Twattwaffles air it out on Twitter.

Yeah ok, tough guy. You do realize you're talking about children, right? If true, Hevesy had no place telling a kid on your own team that. Not in today's social climate. Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit so let me spell it out. I'm not necessarily condemning what Hev said. I'm condemning the act of saying it because it can only hurt in recruiting. Other kids between the ages of 16-19 probably won't possess the necessary wherewithal to properly compartmentalize what was said. They'll just see an old white coach telling a black player that he'll end up in jail. Yeah, good luck convincing teenagers there was no malicious intent there.

 

[Bait'n Gator]

Yeah ok, tough guy. You do realize you're talking about children, right? If true, Hevesy had no place telling a kid on your own team that. Not in today's social climate. Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit so let me spell it out. I'm not necessarily condemning what Hev said. I'm condemning the act of saying it because it can only hurt in recruiting. Other kids between the ages of 16-19 probably won't possess the necessary wherewithal to properly compartmentalize what was said. They'll just see an old white coach telling a black player that he'll end up in jail. Yeah, good luck convincing teenagers there was no malicious intent there.

No wonder Ancrum has been so terrible, he must have signed at UF when he was 11 or 12. He's been there for 5 or so years and he's still a child.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

No one catered to star players more than Creyer.

Of course, he would not take shyt from some 3- /2 star roster fluff like Ancrum though.

Hell Ancrum doesnt even get a walkon offer under Creyer or SOS.

 

[NVGator]

Yeah ok, tough guy. You do realize you're talking about children, right? If true, Hevesy had no place telling a kid on your own team that. Not in today's social climate. Clearly reading comprehension isn't your strong suit so let me spell it out. I'm not necessarily condemning what Hev said. I'm condemning the act of saying it because it can only hurt in recruiting. Other kids between the ages of 16-19 probably won't possess the necessary wherewithal to properly compartmentalize what was said. They'll just see an old white coach telling a black player that he'll end up in jail. Yeah, good luck convincing teenagers there was no malicious intent there.

He’s 23. Did know that still qualifies as a kid.

 

[SGG]

Managing a McDonalds?

Managing may be a tad of a stretch....

 

[Renard904]

He’s 23. Did know that still qualifies as a kid.

Yes. It definitely does. Wisdom isn't received with time, per sé. It has more to do with experience. Which is gained over time, but he's only known public school and college. I wouldn't say that's very experienced at anything.

But I'm losing sight on your point. Whether I agree with you or not is irrelevant. I'm just speaking to how kids will receive this as opposed to adults. That's all. I don't care what brush you're trying to paint Ancrum with. More high school kids will hear what he said than adults. I just think Hev's statement has no place in today's world. It's an image issue not a morality issue. I don't care that Ancrum was offended. I care that the statement may affect other recruits.

 

[NVGator]

Yes. It definitely does. Wisdom isn't received with time, per sé. It has more to do with experience. Which is gained over time, but he's only known public school and college. I wouldn't say that's very experienced at anything.

But I'm losing sight on your point. Whether I agree with you or not is irrelevant. I'm just speaking to how kids will receive this as opposed to adults. That's all. I don't care what brush you're trying to paint Ancrum with. More high school kids will hear what he said than adults. I just think Hev's statement has no place in today's world. It's an image issue not a morality issue. I don't care that Ancrum was offended. I care that the statement may affect other recruits.

My point is you called a 23 year old a kid. That’s ridiculous no matter how you try and spin it. These aren’t kids.

 

[Renard904]

My point is you called a 23 year old a kid. That’s ridiculous no matter how you try and spin it. These aren’t kids.

So we've had this long exchange and now your point is about him being 23? You literally just brought that up in your last message. I thought we were debating the "politically corrected-ness" of Hev's statement and how it could potentially have a negative impact on recruiting.

But carry on. You're making your motives crystal clear. You were hurt by my original point of you guys being out of touch and now you want to engage me on anything just to prove a point. Relax! The out of touch comment wasn't necessarily intended to be a slight at anyone. I fall into the out of touch group as well. But let's not pretend that 16-19 year old brown kids won't feel some type of way about those comments. That's all. We can all lock arms and scream screw Ancrum until the cows come home. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a bad look for the program.

 

[oxrageous]

We’re still arguing having no idea what Hevesy actually said. We’ve only heard one side of the story.

 

[JDW]

And besides if someone is acting like a punk why not show him some tough love...kid needs to nut up

 

[NVGator]

So we've had this long exchange and now your point is about him being 23? You literally just brought that up in your last message. I thought we were debating the "politically corrected-ness" of Hev's statement and how it could potentially have a negative impact on recruiting.

But carry on. You're making your motives crystal clear. You were hurt by my original point of you guys being out of touch and now you want to engage me on anything just to prove a point. Relax! The out of touch comment wasn't necessarily intended to be a slight at anyone. I fall into the out of touch group as well. But let's not pretend that 16-19 year old brown kids won't feel some type of way about those comments. That's all. We can all lock arms and scream screw Ancrum until the cows come home. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a bad look for the program.

WE haven’t had any long exchange, there tough guy. My very first post in this thread was calling your idiotic POV that a 23 year old it a kid.

But don’t let that hurt your rant.

EDIT: my apologies. My first post was he would be a McD’s Manager. Something most here disagree with here.

 

[5-Star Finger]

Probably would have helped if Hevesy would have bought him a latte, put his arm around him and looked him in the eyes, in a big brotherly way, when he told him his behind would be in jail soon.

In a nut shell this why I like youth football. Some of most unvarnished honest interactions I've had with anyone have been with some seventh grader after he has royally screwed the pooch in class or after some run in with the law. They are already used to getting called out for failures on the field and it is a natural springboard for me to use whatever motivational technique they respond to best to clarify how dumb that behavior was. Kids that young, even the ones that are going to end up pretty good, haven't been completely ruined by the fanny kissing that tends to happen as they get farther along. A little rudder at that age can make a big difference in destination.