Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Texas A&M

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As usual Cover did a great job of summarizing the train wreck we all saw yesterday. The stat that blows my mind are the Aggies third down conversions. After watching how easily they ran and threw through our D I am surprised they missed any conversions.
We all see what is wrong and it is everything.
My perspective on what to do is from Mullen's seat. Mullen must get to the core of the problems. Is it the defensive scheme, coaches, players ,or all of that. If in fact it is Grantham which I believe it is, then he needs to replace him. That as we know is the 'nuclear option" that no one wants to see 3 games into a season. There would be a buy out, an impact on 2021 commits, turmoil with the assistant coaches and more. Mullen has Paul Pasqualoni his "special assistant" who with his DC pedigree, could be the interim coach for the rest of the season. Drastic action, but I learned during my years in the private sector if you have a senior level personnel problem that you know can't be fixed you need to cut it loose sooner than later. I doubt that Mullen will take this action. Unless Stricklin as CEO of the 160MM annual (non covid) football business demands the change. Possible but doubtful.
 

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The greatest football coach of all time would have had a coronary if he were alive to witness the defensive debacle at Kyle Field this afternoon. He’d also probably have some choice words about our secondary play, and our pass rush. But Coach Lombardi is long gone, as are our championship hopes. Left in a pile of unsuccessful tacklers and toasted DBs.

Let’s be honest...most of us knew in our hearts, after weighing the euphoria of an offense capable of going all the way with the reality of a defense that would have trouble playing dead in a cowboy movie, that we’d eventually meet up with a team that would out score us. We were hoping and praying that just maybe the D might come to life. But it was not to be. And worse yet, it came at the hands of Jimbo Fischer, who we’d suffered against too often prior to Saturday.

So what are we to do? We’ve waited a long time for this season to start, withstanding the uncertainty COVID-19 cast upon it. We’re disappointed, and rightfully so. The most logical thing is to react within the spirit of the times. Occupy the athletic offices. Loot and burn the Gator Shops. Paint a mural on a wall at BHG depicting our forlorn defenders with the words “Re-Imagine the Gators” boldly displayed. Defund the football program. Cancel Mullen, Strickland, and especially Grantham. Throw in Fuchs for good measure. Or we can do what Gators have done before...voice our displeasure, certainly it will eventually make a difference, but until then, keep plowing.

Let’s review how we wound up on the bottom in College station:

*38 points is usually enough to win most games you are in unless you give up 543 total yds to the opposition, 205 on the ground with much of it coming after contact and missed tackles. It’s not enough when you allow 12 / 15 third and Grantham’s (plus 1 / 1 4th and Grantham’s). It’s not enough when Kellen Mond throws for 338 and three scores. We better find a way to score 50+ the rest of the way.

*The defensive woes, and there are several, begin with the DL. They are just too small overall (save Slaton), too green, and not strong enough. Slaton draws a double team most every play and the other three D front guys can’t defeat one guy. That = no QB pressure and a body between you and a ball carrier.

*And speaking of pressure, Grantham did try to send it quite a bit today, especially in several third down situations. None very successfully. Almost looked like slow motion most times. Even saw several twists and loops from the DL, all of it eaten up.

*Then there was the coverage. Soft zone and man with a big cushion won’t get it done. The scheme part is on the coaches, but given the level of play, I guess I can understand the excess caution. Marco Wilson, for example, just got absolutely lit up. I hope they’ll get him some type of assault or physical abused counseling, as that one white TAMU receiver stuck the ball in every orifice.

*Though no lives appeared to be lost, there were a lot of egos that got buried by the Aggie RBs. Our guys got run over, through, around, and away from with regularity. None should test positive for COVID since they social distanced as well as they did with the ball carriers. If one guy can’t make the tackle, you better have two or more arriving. This part of the game, at week three, is inexcusable.

*Offensively we weren’t quite as potent as expected, but we scored 38 on the road. Trask was 23 / 32 for 312 and 4 TDs, but our RB by committee might have gone past its shelf life. The three backs combined for 77 yds on 18 carries. Though Davis had a couple of nice catches and runs, his fumble helped provide a turning point. He’s had those issues before. Trust is broken, got to be earned back. Someone in the box described Mullen’s sub patterns with regard to the backs as “middle school,” making sure everyone got equal touches. Enough of that.

*McPherson’s got big balls. Misses a 45 yarder that didn’t count due to penalty, then got backed up another five on another penalty, and finally drilled a 55 yarder that would have been good from 65. He’s a special player.

*Though Pitts recorded his 7th TD of the season, he didn’t seem quite himself. Might’ve tweaked his left foot some. Might be that everybody knows about him. Toney stepped up, however. Good to see him producing and just getting the chances.

They used to say a team could recover easier from an early loss. Harder to do with the playoff, but anything’s possible right now. It becomes academic, however, if the D can’t find some way to get better, now. Down the road, it all comes back to recruiting needed positions with talented players. The spectrum goes from “Some” to “All.” We have to get closer to “All,” should’ve already been there, but that point’s moot. A big piece of this depends on what Mullen and Co. can hammer out the rest of the way. They need to be coaching and resurrecting the D like their jobs depend on it. They very well may.

Next up, LSU. They’re struggling too. We’ve got an opportunity to get well. It’ll be interesting to see how we bounce back. Hell, I’m already smelling corn dogs! Go Gators!

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Well done, as usual C2.

Most times there’s not enough credit is given to McPherson. He’s the real deal.
 

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We’re not as deep or as talented as we’d like to be, specifically in certain areas. But a competent DC makes more of what we have than what we’ve seen.

Exactly. We've got enough on that side of the ball for 3 or 4 stops a game atleast.
 

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The defense makes me wanna run out to my local home depot purchase a very sturdy ceiling fan and a good rope. You know the rest.

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So "White Boys" aren't suppose to get the better of black cover corners? Be reminded that the award for the
top receiver in the country award is named after one of the greatest receivers ever to play the game, Fred Biletnikoff.
Calm down Nancy
 

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Here's all I have to say. You will NEVER, EVER get pressure on a QB if your DBs play so far off the opponent's WRs that the QB gets easy quick throws all over the field over and over and over again.
 

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Exactly. We've got enough on that side of the ball for 3 or 4 stops a game atleast.

Exactly. Wilson, Stewart, Miller, Elam, Carter, etc were all 4*s, Dexter and Cox were 5*s, and Davis is the quintessential 3* that has played above his grade over time. You’re telling me we can’t force a punt or get an INT once or twice a game?
 

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The greatest football coach of all time would have had a coronary if he were alive to witness the defensive debacle at Kyle Field this afternoon....
...They need to be coaching and resurrecting the D like their jobs depend on it. They very well may.

Next up, LSU. They’re struggling too. We’ve got an opportunity to get well. It’ll be interesting to see how we bounce back. Hell, I’m already smelling corn dogs! Go Gators!

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Sure do appreciate the time and effort you put into these Bits & Pieces, Cover!
If our coaches put half the effort into def. prep & game planning as you do into these commentaries, we might have a reasonable chance to stop an opponent on 3rd or 4th down.
Your comment on our defense practicing social distancing is pure comedy gold!
 

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Im sorry. Im just weird. I like to see a safety around a deep ball instead of one chasing a double covered RB running back 8 yards deep and another standing 12 yards deep flat footed doing what appears to be nothing.
Just saw SEC Now replays. They pulled out plays to show just how badly the safeties were fooled. Completely bamboozled. Also, on several damaging plays Marco wasn't beaten horribly. A bigger, more physical CB would have batted the ball down or even intercepted it. The receiver just took the ball away.
 

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Are we over our anger enough to think about any possibility of improvement? It seems to me that all our defensive problems are interconnected. We can't pressure even on blitzes, so our DBs play soft. Our line and LBs can't stop the run, so our safeties bite on play action. And on and on and on. Is there at least hope that correction in one area might lead to improvement in others?
 

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Are we over our anger enough to think about any possibility of improvement?
There is no possibility of improvement. The pieces just don't fit to make anything. All we have done is recruited the same player (Cox or Cox even lighter) 10 times.

Other than Z Carter, none have improved and put on the weight necessary to play in the SEC. Some of the others may some day, but some have been here 3 years already and still weigh 220- 230 pounds. Regardless there is no fixing it over night.

There is no way to play defense without a functioning DL, period.

Oh, and we didnt bother recruiting LBs either. We were just going to "bulk up" some safeties I was told. How do you like Burney and Lil Reese so far in the safety to ILB transition?
 
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There is no possibility of improvement. The pieces just don't fit to make anything. All we have done is recruited the same player (Cox or Cox even lighter) 10 times.

Other than Z Carter, none have improved and put on the weight necessary to play in the SEC. Some of the others may some day, but some have been here 3 years already and still weigh 220- 230 pounds. Regardless there is no fixing it over night.

There is no way to play defense without a functioning DL, period.

Oh, and we didnt bother recruiting LBs either. We were just going to "bulk up" some safeties I was told. How do you like Burney and Lil Reese so far in the safety to ILB transition?

Reese was officially listed as DL on the stats line from week one. It seems he got so big, so quick, his stay at LB was short lived. First black sumo wrestler is probably what we’re looking at.
 

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Reese was officially listed as DL on the stats line from week one. It seems he got so big, so quick, his stay at LB was short lived. First black sumo wrestler is probably what we’re looking at.
Well, I mean the roster says 241 pounds for lil Reese. Hell, he may be at DT next week. He is pushing the bubble.

Imagine what they would do with Brandon Spikes at 262.
 

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Im sorry. Im just weird. I like to see a safety around a deep ball instead of one chasing a double covered RB running back 8 yards deep and another standing 12 yards deep flat footed doing what appears to be nothing.
On that particular play the ball was so badly under thrown that Marco would still have been the one that needed to make the play.
 

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On that particular play the ball was so badly under thrown that Marco would still have been the one that needed to make the play.
Look, no one is making excuses for Marco. He has been atrocious.

But the safeties have been consistently for three ****ing years not even in the same zip code of the play.

You could (and should IMO) replace Marco with Kimbrough and the secondary will still fckking suck. On most of those type plays the corners are supposed to shade the corner and allow the safety to take the middle of the field.
 

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Exactly. Wilson, Stewart, Miller, Elam, Carter, etc were all 4*s, Dexter and Cox were 5*s, and Davis is the quintessential 3* that has played above his grade over time. You’re telling me we can’t force a punt or get an INT once or twice a game?

BMF and others are right, the DL is undersized and gets pushed around. That was more than apparent yesterday. But I think the biggest thing is scheme and coaching. There is enough talent to get some stops, enough to be a middle of the road SEC defense. A non X's and O's fan like myself can see the cushion given to the receivers going back to last year and the QB's taking advantage of it. When blitzed, the QB has a ready made outlet provided by our secondary. Or out of position or looking lost. This is play after play after play. And as many people on here have pointed out, the poor tackling technique or the lack of want-to. That's on the coaches to get fixed or put someone else in.
 

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no one is saying coaching isn't terrible and or pretending that Third and Grantham hasn't been a thing since the minute he came to the SEC a decade ago.
 

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