Who should Mullen's replacement be?

[G. Gordon Gator]

All this talk about Kiffin is just an academic discussion and I do mean academic, because the Fuchstard in Chief will never give Strychnine the okay to hire him. Sorry for making it "political," but read the Woke Tealeaves that Fuchs & Co. have laid out on every other thing that comes up. This will be no different. FSU and UM have hired coaches of color and we have not.

 

[OcalaGator83]

All this talk about Kiffin is just an academic discussion and I do mean academic, because the Fuchstard in Chief will never give Strychnine the okay to hire him. Sorry for making it "political," but read the Woke Tealeaves that Fuchs & Co. have laid out on every other thing that comes up. This will be no different. FSU and UM have hired coaches of color and we have not.

I have it on good authority Willie Taggart's 9th dream job is actually UF.

 

[G. Gordon Gator]

I have it on good authority Willie Taggart's 9th dream job is actually UF.

Maybe we'll finally find out what's in the Turnover Backpack.

 

[oxrageous]

Are you really sitting there thinking that you and Fuchsing @Swamp Donkey are the boys who can see that the emperor is wearing no clothes? Open your eyes, Kiffin is widely considered the hottest coaching prospect out there.

The knocks you have against him are based on sh*t that happened years ago, and nobody has had any real complaints about him since then.

While Donkey has spent years doing nothing but b*tching 24/7 about Mullinz (and anyone who doesn't hate Mullinz enough for his liking), and you've been in your little workshop building replica movie props, the world has passed y'all by.

You didn't answer my question, turd breath. He's 13-7 at Ole Miss. That's a fact. Is that record supposed to blow my mind?

 

[Detroitgator]

So it’s not possible for someone to mature or improve over time? Seriously? Belichick sucked at Cleveland. Carroll suffered through more firings than I can count. The college landscape is filled with stories of a$$holes who’ve redeemed themselves.

We all agree we want a guy who runs a high-powered offense and embraces the vertical pass. We all agree we want someone with head coaching experience and esp in the SEC. We sure as hell agree we want someone who knows the state of Florida and who can kill it in recruiting. And it won’t hurt if he is years away from retirement.

Tell me from who’s realistically available, not some pie in the sky candidate who’s not a logical fit, who might better fit that bill than Lane Kiffin assuming he comes armed with Durkin or some other proven DC.

Saban reinvented Bama’s offense in no small part because of Kiffin. We suck by comparison. Why not us?

I think it’s illogical to NOT strongly consider the guy.

Yup.

 

[oxrageous]

He can be the biggest smartass on the planet so long as he’s putting up 30 points in the first half from our sideline. I’d love every minute of it.

He might be able to do that. Unfortunately our defense would be giving up 30 points as well. We can finally be that Big 12 team we always dreamed of.

Kiffin sees defense as a necessary evil, certainly nothing that's important.

 

[Detroitgator]

Kiffen is an OC. We need a HC.

He's a now 8-2 OC... our OC, not so much.

 

[oxrageous]

He was fired by Al Davis because Al Davis had completely lost what was left of his marbles at that point.

Davis forced Kiffin to draft Jamarcus Russell against his will, and then when he sucked, resented the fact that Kiffin was right about him. Everybody (but you, because you don't know anything) knows that's what poisoned their relationship. That, and the fact that Davis was an embittered, crazy old maniac at the end of his life. Which is obviously why you're taking his side. Kindred spirits.

Davis fired Kiffin for cause. Kiffin sued. Kiffin lost in court, because Davis was right about him.

 

[Detroitgator]

You didn't answer my question, turd breath. He's 13-7 at Ole Miss. That's a fact. Is that record supposed to blow my mind?

12-3 in his last 15 games...

 

[oxrageous]

Pitt has a higher ranked offense than Ole Miss. Does this mean we should go after Patrick Narduzzi? He'd be a far better choice than Kiffin.

 

[Detroitgator]

I think people are also not looking at his results at FAU and who most of the losses were too... P5 opponents on the road and UCF when they were "champions"... not a chance in hell he learned anything there, right?

 

[oxrageous]

Let's look at Kiffy's 4-2 record against the SEC this year:

21 point loss to Alabama (wasn't nearly that close)
1 point win against Arkansas
5 point win against UT
14 point win against LSU
11 point loss to Auburn
10 point win against A&M

He has four wins by a total of 30 points, and all four of those teams are freaking awful to average. He's really damn close to being 0-6 in the SEC, which is more in line with his coaching.

 

[oxrageous]

I think people are also not looking at his results at FAU and who most of the losses were too... P5 opponents on the road and UCF when they were "champions"... not a chance in hell he learned anything there, right?

No one mentions his 5-7 record in his second year at FAU. Particularly those gargling his balls like you.

 

[Detroitgator]

No one mentions his 5-7 record in his second year at FAU. Particularly those gargling his balls like you.

I just did... you can read faster if you don't move your mouth and sound out the words in your head.

 

[Detroitgator]

Let's look at Kiffy's 4-2 record against the SEC this year:

21 point loss AT #1 Alabama (wasn't nearly that close)
1 point win against Arkansas
5 point win AT UT who would kick our ass if played on October 16th let alone today.
14 point win against LSU, a team that has managed to embarrass us, twice in a row
11 point loss AT then #18 Auburn
10 point win against then #11 A&M who beat then #1 Alabama

He has four wins by a total of 30 points, and all four of those teams are freaking awful to average. He's really damn close to being 0-6 in the SEC, which is more in line with his coaching.

and yet, he's not 0-6, he's 4-2 (and 12-3 in last 15 games).

 

[Detroitgator]

As for our administration, I'm not so sure they wouldn't take "post Peter Pan" Kiffin. Now, this is the big if, if they were smart, they'd offer him a base of say $5M with YUGE incentives based on recruiting and actual results, and have lots of caveats for behavior (yes, you can hold him accountable for banging Saban's daughter (even though Saban praises him and talk to him to this day) when he was still Peter Pan). Sadly, some other team will likely pay him more than $5M... and he'll beat us like a drum.

 

[Homer J]

Write out the requisition for the UF coaching job, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who checks all the boxes as well as Kiffin does.

1. Coach with offensive acumen, check.
2. Was an OC under two future hall of fame coaches, who built dynasties. Check.
3. Recent head coaching experience in the state of Florida. Check.
4. Young, energetic, charismatic personality. Check.
5. Head coaching experience in the SEC. Check.
6. Head coach with multiple conference championships under his belt. Check.
7. Coach with connections to put an elite staff together at UF. Check.
8. Coach with an established recruiting footprint in the southeast. Check.
9. #2 team in the SEC West only behind Saban, and that is only with 3* and 4* recruits. Check.
10. Post-Saban Coaching Rehabilitation Program he has put together 3 very successful seasons at the schools he has been at: 2 conference championships and 2nd only to Saban in the SEC West this year. So we know that Kiffin is not just a one hit wonder like Frost or Tucker.


The only question in my mind is really recruiting, but there are signs that point to the fact that he could do it well here at UF. And there is a good chance he brings a QB to our school with the last name of Manning.

Beat a ranked team in the bowl last year.

 

[Homer J]

Let's look at Kiffy's 4-2 record against the SEC this year:

21 point loss to Alabama (wasn't nearly that close)
1 point win against Arkansas
5 point win against UT
14 point win against LSU
11 point loss to Auburn
10 point win against A&M

He has four wins by a total of 30 points, and all four of those teams are freaking awful to average. He's really damn close to being 0-6 in the SEC, which is more in line with his coaching.

and he did that with a beat up team and a roster full of rejects

 

[SaltGator]

He’s headed for 10 - 2 in his second year at Ole Miss. A & M is a nice win, they would throttle MuLLLLLet this year.

 

[Detroitgator]

He’s headed for 10 - 2 in his second year at Ole Miss. A & M is a nice win, they would throttle MuLLLLLet this year.

You'll notice, I have NOT compared his last 15 games to our last 15, or said he'd throttle Mullen today (which he would), because Mullen is the not my standard. I'll use the coaches from Ox's own list of 6 games as a better standard of coaching, even Ogre.