Billy Napier - UF Head Football Coach

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It's convenient to ignore the 7 losses the year before that streak. But, okay, lets pretend those losses don't count. If we are saying he usually had the best talent in his conference and often won close, how many of the close games going the other way would it take to wonder if his losses despite better talent are scheme related?

I get that he's going to be a hard working program builder, things we do need right frikin now. But I think if he tries to bring his shlt offense to the SEC we are going to be very familiar with the results and looking for a new coach in a few years.
Did you ever think he wins most of his close games because he's, you know, a good coach?

I get it, you hate him and don't want him, but some of you guys have lost it. I could pick apart your boy Kiffy all day too.
 

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Did you ever think he wins most of his close games because he's, you know, a good coach?

I get it, you hate him and don't want him, but some of you guys have lost it. I could pick apart your boy Kiffy all day too.

Or you could do the Donk and bytch about everyone selected but refuse to state your choice
 

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I remember the same comments about Urban and the spread offense. It wouldn't work in the SEC, SEC defenses would eat it up.

Now almost everyone is running a version of it, including Alabama.
I remember the Urban Meyer hire very well. It was one of the, if not the highest profile college football coaching hires the nation had ever seen. He was the consensus top upcomer candidate and the fact that UF and ND were both going after him hard, and no one knew who he was going to choose, made it all the more suspenseful. It was a regular item every few minutes on the ESPN ticker and a leading story on every Sports Center broadcast for days. Trying to spin this hire as having any resemblance to that is a stretch. We were all thrilled as hell when he picked UF and it was mostly just talking heads questioning if his system would translate. They kept questioning it right up until a few minutes after tPOSU ran back the opening kickoff for a TD.

We've already seen Napier's 60/40 run/short pass offense and we know it simply doesn't work in today's game short of having an all world defense like the dwags. And even the dwags air it out more and have significantly more passing yrds per game than UL.

The same glaring questions remain assuming this really is a done deal. Can he recruit against the big boys and is he willing to delegate and change his Sunbelt offense.
 

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It really is astonishing how someone could be so wrong all the time on such a wide range of categories. You have a special talent Holmes.

Fuchs you...you talk out of your rectum.

So asshat...what did I say that is wrong?
 

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Did you ever think he wins most of his close games because he's, you know, a good coach?

I get it, you hate him and don't want him, but some of you guys have lost it. I could pick apart your boy Kiffy all day too.
Oh for Pete's sake, give it a Fuchsing rest already. It's played out.

SPOILER ALERT

Ox confidently predicted that Missouri would not win, because he wanted Missouri to win.

Based on that success, he followed up by confidently predicting that Mullen would not get fired, because he wanted Mullen to get fired.

BOOM! Two for two. There's no stopping him now!

He is confidently predicting that Napier will be hired, not Kiffin, because he wants Kiffin to be hired, not Napier.

I respect the effort because I feel the same way, but I'm sorry to say this will be where Ox's luck runs out. UF won't hire either one of those guys.
 

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Oh for Pete's sake, give it a Fuchsing rest already. It's played out.

SPOILER ALERT

Ox confidently predicted that Missouri would not win, because he wanted Missouri to win.

Based on that success, he followed up by confidently predicting that Mullen would not get fired, because he wanted Mullen to get fired.

BOOM! Two for two. There's no stopping him now!

He is confidently predicting that Napier will be hired, not Kiffin, because he wants Kiffin to be hired, not Napier.

I respect the effort because I feel the same way, but I'm sorry to say this will be where Ox's luck runs out. UF won't hire either one of those guys.
Don't post in this thread again.
 

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For a multitude of reasons, I feel confident Billy Napier will be named the next coach within the next 72 hours. There has already been much hand-wringing and gnashing of teeth over this hire, so I figured we could start a new thread about it. That way we can revisit it in a few years and see who was right and who was wrong.

This thread is only about Billy Napier, not any other coach. I would highly suggest you do what I did and start reading about Napier like I did - you might find out it's a better choice than you first thought. Everyone wants a "splash" hire, but what I personally wanted was someone who could tear down and build the program back up from the bottom, and someone who would work relentlessly to get it done.

By all accounts, Napier is a football lunatic in all facets, including recruiting. He's obsessed with football. You aren't going to hear about him going on any vacations. He may have also pulled UF into the 21st century by expanding the staff by leaps and bounds, something I'm sure he's insisted on.

What the results on the field are remain to be seen, but I think we found a guy that's going to do something we've been insisting on: raze it and build it up the right way.

So, we've already got upset people making fun of his dialect, his looks, his wife and kids, whatever. Go for it - do what you do. I'm going to give him a chance.

Discuss.
I like this guy. He seems to be as you said what we've been looking for. It would be nice to get a coach that doesn't neglect any area of his job and seems to earn all the money he's being paid!! And would be nice if he really wanted to be here and not on vacay all the time
 

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Did you ever think he wins most of his close games because he's, you know, a good coach?

I get it, you hate him and don't want him, but some of you guys have lost it. I could pick apart your boy Kiffy all day too.
I hated the Mullen hire. Take a look at the thread you resurrected, I didn't have a single positive thing to say about him for months.

I don't hate this hire as much as I'm very concerned with his inexperience on the big stage, and the fact that he's his own OC with results that would make you swear the HC is the DC. I'm pretty well convinced he's not going to out scheme the competition so I just hope he comes in and sees this as his chance to really emulate Saban as the delegating CEO. And we have to hope he has the magic touch on the recruiting trail. Way too early to tell if either will be the case.

I think we might get a pretty good idea of what we got in his initial comments. I don't want to hear about some Mullinz bullshlt Gator Standard or fictional idea that he is going to compete for championships ignoring the facts that Mullen never had any intention of actually putting in the work. I don't need to hear too much more about his family. Yeah, he loves his family, we all do. I want to hear him explain why he passed on other P5 jobs and why he knew this was the right one, one of the elite jobs in college football where the only acceptable outcome is competing for championships. And where he has the assurance and backing of the UAA and the boosters to ensure that this is the destination kids are going to want to come to if they want to play for championships and play in the NFL. Throwing out some code about helping them secure the best NIL contracts couldn't hurt.

I don't want talk about how great the SEC is and how huge of a challenge this is going to be because we know most of it's trash. I want him to ignore the trash teams and directly point out Kirby and Saban. Acknowledge that these are the programs that are doing it right and that these are the competition we are coming after. Make "Don't Back Down" actually mean something for a change.
 
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I hated the Mullen hire. Take a look at the post you resurrected, I didn't have a single positive thing to say about him for months.

I don't hate this hire as much as I'm very concerned with his inexperience on the big stage, and the fact that he's his own OC with results that would make you swear the HC is the DC. I'm pretty well convinced he's not going to out scheme the competition so I just hope he comes in and sees this as his chance to really emulate Saban as the delegating CEO. And we have to hope he has the magic touch on the recruiting trail. Way too early to tell if either will be the case.

I think we might get a pretty good idea of what we got in his initial comments. I don't want to hear about some Mullinz bullshlt Gator Standard or fictional idea that he is going to compete for championships ignoring the facts that Mullen never had any intention of actually putting in the work. I don't need to hear too much more about his family. Yeah, he loves his family, we all do. I want to hear him explain why he passed on other P5 jobs and why he knew this was the right one, one of the elite jobs in college football where the only acceptable outcome is competing for championships. And where he has the assurance of the UAA and the boosters to ensure that this is the destination kids are going to want to come to if they want to play for championships and play in the NFL. Throwing out some code about helping them secure the best NIL contracts couldn't hurt.

I don't want talk about how great the SEC is and how huge of a challenge this is going to be because we know most of it's trash. I want him to ignore the trash teams and directly point out Kirby and Saban. Acknowledge that these are the programs that are doing it right and that these are the competition we are coming after. Make "Don't Back Down" actually mean something for a change.

The problem with that song is that it's sung by a heroin addict who couldn't get his act together and was the skinniest, weakest guy on the planet who'd be beaten to a pulp by the nerdy kid on Little Giants. Worse yet, it's now sung in a chorus of wishy-washy fans that have largely accepted mediocrity and will probably leave the games early "to beat the traffic". There've been a handful of times when it was cool(Lsu '18, Usce '18, fsu '19). But it's largely just a giant irony that also gets cut off after the return from commercial break every time. If I'm Napier it's the first thing to go when I get here.
 

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The problem with that song is that it's sung by a heroin addict who couldn't get his act together and was the skinniest, weakest guy on the planet who'd be beaten to a pulp by the nerdy kid on Little Giants. Worse yet, it's now sung in a chorus of wishy-washy fans that have largely accepted mediocrity and will probably leave the games early "to beat the traffic". There've been a handful of times when it was cool(Lsu '18, Usce '18, fsu '19). But it's largely just a giant irony that also gets cut off after the return from commercial break every time. If I'm Napier it's the first thing to go when I get here.
That song needs to go away. If our team was filled with gutsy, play till you drop, "merely a flesh wound" type players then ok. But we haven't fielded team like that in over a decade. It should be

 
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The problem with that song is that it's sung by a heroin addict who couldn't get his act together and was the skinniest, weakest guy on the planet who'd be beaten to a pulp by the nerdy kid on Little Giants. Worse yet, it's now sung in a chorus of wishy-washy fans that have largely accepted mediocrity and will probably leave the games early "to beat the traffic". There've been a handful of times when it was cool(Lsu '18, Usce '18, fsu '19). But it's largely just a giant irony that also gets cut off after the return from commercial break every time. If I'm Napier it's the first thing to go when I get here.
Yeah, I mostly agree. I do admire Petty's amazing catalogue of hits despite being ripped out of his gourd most of the time though.

I didn't mean the tradition of singing it during the games as much the title itself if we're going to be associated with it. Mullen openly backed down from his competition talking about outgaining teams in losses or being only one score away from Bama, ignoring the fact that we were sitting on 4 losses while Bama was an undefeated national champion, again. This was the kind of snarky pussified crap that made Numbnuts so hated.

I know we don't have to worry about that stuff from Napier but I just hope he is more of a taller Saban than a less hotheaded Muschamp.
 
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The problem with that song is that it's sung by a heroin addict who couldn't get his act together and was the skinniest, weakest guy on the planet who'd be beaten to a pulp by the nerdy kid on Little Giants. Worse yet, it's now sung in a chorus of wishy-washy fans that have largely accepted mediocrity and will probably leave the games early "to beat the traffic". There've been a handful of times when it was cool(Lsu '18, Usce '18, fsu '19). But it's largely just a giant irony that also gets cut off after the return from commercial break every time. If I'm Napier it's the first thing to go when I get here.
Yeah, I'm a Petty fan but damn, ENOUGH!
I agree with your sentiments above.
Plus, It sort of tramples all over "We are the boys", which is a real tradition.

I'm thinking we can rid ourselves of "back down" along with the loser demons we are excorcising from the locker room and players. One fel swoop, Demon Get out!

Then bring back GATORBAIT!
 
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